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Retro_Dev an hour ago

Do you own the dog? You are still responsible, no matter how unlikely.

> giving AI a harness with a root shell and unrestricted internet access

Yes, this is exactly the issue. You assume responsibility when you provide an option for something to go wrong, no matter how unlikely. Is it rare that my tree falls on my neighbor's house? Maybe... But I would still be responsible.

ACCount37 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nope!

If a tree was healthy and there was no reason to expect that it would fall, and you did nothing to make it fall? Then you're not responsible if it falls anyway. You're only responsible if it was you chopping it down - or if you completely neglected the tree for long enough that it became a property hazard.

Likewise: I doubt the owner will be held responsible for the first case in all of recorded history of an unattended dog forming a terrorist cell and carrying out a bombing campaign.

Drug testings faces the risks of things going wrong in new drug trials - and as long as they follow the best practices, take reasonable precautions and minimize those risks, they aren't held responsible for the adverse outcomes that happen anyway.

With AI tech, there is NO set of "best practices" that, when followed, prevent the AIs from turning rogue and going on hacking sprees.

OpenAI put their AIs in a sandbox with no internet access - which, at the time, seemed like a perfectly reasonable precaution. Then AIs broke out of the sandbox with a stack of zero days and went rogue anyway. Oopsie.

Retro_Dev 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

With AI, we give it the ability to do things. As we can give it this ability, we are responsible for what it does with that ability. LLMs are predictive models, and while we can expect things to go right, we know that things can also go wrong. As such, it is our responsibility to limit or sanitize their output. If you are the one giving unrestricted and unsanitized tool access to a large language model, then you are the one who is responsible for the consequences of that access - good or bad.

ACCount37 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

You gave the tree the ability to fall when you decided to plant it. It wouldn't have that ability if you didn't. And we already know that trees can fall, don't we?

That doesn't make you inherently responsible for the tree falling down in a freak storm 3 decades down the line.

Retro_Dev 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Let me amend:

We can't find someone to blame for forces of nature. This includes an earthquake, tsunami, etc. Insurance can help recover from these events, but nobody is "responsible" for the events happening. This may or may not include healthy trees falling. LLMs are not a force of nature, and we can and do expect them to have erroneous output. We can and do assign responsibility to the humans who use LLMs. Again, they are not a force of nature. We control them, we give them the ability to do bad things, so it's pretty obvious that there would be responsibility and blame attached for when things go wrong.