| ▲ | ranyume 3 hours ago |
| > And none of that is illegal... At least not in any civilised society I mean, the capitalist system is a barbaric system with defenders that do make opposition illegal... |
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| ▲ | jtrn 3 hours ago | parent [-] |
| Yeah, but there are degrees. I’d rather have a conversation about trans rights here in Oslo than in Afghanistan. |
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| ▲ | ranyume 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | How do you think LGBTQI+ rights came exist? It was not a pretty, blood-free, submissive process. And we're still far from LGBTQI+ rights being normalized. How about workers rights? Slavery? Any progress that you'd think of as civilizing was not achieved without blood. | | |
| ▲ | dvdkon an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't remember any LGBTQI+ wars here in the Czech Republic, so "blood free" actually seems like a good characterisation. Sometimes the system just works. See also the Velvet Revolution for a pretty large shift away from totalitarianism without any deaths. | |
| ▲ | goosejuice an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Indeed. Must also acknowledge that such tactics generate the seeds of opposition. i.e. hate begets hate and violence begets violence. |
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