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drewg123 4 hours ago

However, Strike 3 argues that this is no ordinary home pirate, using the timing of the downloads as evidence. On March 20, 2025, the porn producer’s general counsel first emailed Meta’s lawyers with forensic evidence of BitTorrent activity on the tech giant’s corporate IP addresses.

“Just hours later, Strike 3 first recorded BitTorrent infringement on John Doe’s residential IP Address,” the motion reads.

“This may suggest that Meta desired to shift infringing activity to this hidden residential IP Address in order to prevent further detection,”

Seems like there are 2 different reads to that. (a) is like they say, and Meta was using porn for AI training or something else official. Or (b) that he was personally downloading porn either at the office or a corp VPN and was told to stop by their corp It folks..

gchamonlive 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> b) that he was personally downloading porn either at the office or a corp VPN and was told to stop by their corp It folks..

I wonder how much porn you have to personally download to be considered prolific.

EDIT: "Reality Labs executive downloaded nearly 20,000 files at his home for work purposes"

Yeah, you can't consume that much porn for your own amusement.

paimapi 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

like literally too, 20k films at let's say 30m average is 400+ continuous, unbroken days worth of content

and I assume this was just for content from Reality Labs. god knows how much other torrenting was done outside of Reality Labs IP

gchamonlive 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

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Lammy 4 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> 20k films at let's say 30m average is 400+ continuous, unbroken days worth of content

You are making the mistake of assuming someone can only have one monitor displaying porn at once. Have you never seen a real gooncave?

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stevenwoo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I worked for office with about 40 employees in 2001 or so, the FBI came to our office to arrest a guy using I think Limewire over our high speed internet access to share music and videos. It may be so common these days they only crack down like that on really egregious abuse.

busterarm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Around that same time my own brother was working at the second largest record label in the world and their own servers were hacked and serving about 1/3 of global warez downloads.

Law enforcement didn’t get involved and nobody did shit about it.

Not even the last time that company was massively hacked. ;)

abofh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean basically that. If you hit a corporate IP, unless they have flow level logging or you have very extensive timestamps, then the game ends, company says they've enacted new training or controls, but they can't identify a specific person and it's not their fault.

Essentially - this is not a suggestion.

Residential ip's map to a specific person, and it's a lot harder for them to deflect and say I'm not responsible for my own Internet connection

sandworm101 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It had to be more complicated than simple copyright infringement for the cops to get involved.

axus 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The music industry had more political power in 2001 than it does now.

sandworm101 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Or he was sharing other material that was kept quiet.

joemi 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The raid being due solely to music copyright infringement is really the most likely situation. There's no need to imply it was anything else.

For example, in 2009 I worked at a record store that got raided due to such claims. The RIAA's informant claimed he had seen people selling hidden bootlegs, which absolutely wasn't happening, and that was all they needed to have cops raid the store, arrest several people and cart off boxes of not-bootlegged, sold-by-major-CD-distributors CDs. Court dates followed and the case was eventually dismissed (or settled due to being more convenient than continuing the case? I can't remember), but it still took time, money, and lawyers. And this was in 2009, when the recording industry wield less power than in 2001.

(I was running late for work that day or else I would have ended up arrested too, since I was one of the managers scheduled then. Thank god I was running late!)

shimman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is crazy. Worked at a national ISP/telecom and one of the directors openly had a seedbox and was torrenting massive amount of things. Chalked it up as the poors being held to different standards as this person had a close relationship with one of the executives.

ryandvm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Or (b) that he was personally downloading porn either at the office or a corp VPN

Man, if Facebook is hiring people this dumb, it's going to make me feel a lot worse about getting rejected after interviewing there.

bartread 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Mate, I got rejected by Cambridge University.

I've lived in and around Cambridge for a very long time now. I've met a lot of Cambridge undergrads and graduates. Let me tell you: they are a mixed bag.

Don't misunderstand me: there are some very smart people at Cambridge University. Very smart indeed. And I think if you took any cohort from Cambridge Uni versus a similar cohort from another university you'd certainly find that, against most universities, the Cambridge cohort would be smarter on average. In fact the place is genuinely awash with very smart people literally everywhere.

But that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of people that went to Cambridge who clearly found a way to blag their way through the interview process that may not have been particularly closely correlated with their intellect. The same will be true of Meta, Google, etc. I swear, the interview processes at these companies are probably more of a sop to the egos of company leadership and people who already work there than they are any more effective at filtering down to good talent than less byzantine and overwrought hiring processes.

You just have to make your peace with it.

foobarbecue 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Cambridge alum here. Agree; admissions is a crapshoot. Job interviews are a crapshoot. C'est la vie.

anonym00se1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I worked there for years. I assure you, based on my experience, that there are a lot of dumb people there making > $500k/year.

echelon an hour ago | parent [-]

There's a strong luck component to interviewing.

Which interviewers you get, vibes, which team is hiring, whether the folks in your hiring bar are grumpy, ...

Best thing you can do is know several people who can act as direct hiring manager.

drewg123 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This person is supposedly an executive. I doubt most executive could pass an FAANG technical interview.

eyepea2007 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In a related article linked at the bottom of the article's page, it says Meta confirmed it was a former data engineer:

https://torrentfreak.com/meta-confirms-data-engineer-is-behi...

ryandrake 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I doubt executives even go through the typical employee interview hazing. It's more vibes and "do you know the right people or go to the right prestigious school?"

ChrisMarshallNY an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You may remember this story, from a month or two ago: https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/07/on-the-run-for-20-yea...

vorpalhex 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Executive (and upper management) hiring is much more about owning and using risk, getting the management unit (your part of the org) all aligned and singing the same tune, and for executives showing that you've done this successfully across distinct business units (eg sales and engineering).

There's then a much more serious alignment pass.

Relationships can and do pre-vouch for big pieces of this such as alignment - if you've worked with someone for a decade, you are probably mission aligned.

jjtheblunt 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

is "executive" a well defined term for american corporate law? like "a person who can allocate funds from the master bank account without approval" or something like that?

red-iron-pine an hour ago | parent | next [-]

generally unilateral decision making (up to a point) + supervisory functions of an entire group / department / vertical

e.g. they own all of Finance (or Ops, or Legal, or whatever), and have the ability to hire, fire, and use their own budget, albeit it with strings.

phonon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Officer" is typically anyone who can bind the company contractually.

SmasherEpilepti 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not really, It's just another term for upper management. It's just shorthand for any employee whose title begins with "Chief" or has "Executive" in it (among others like Chairman, President, etc).

Usually, people who can make large decisions for the business without approval from higher-level employees.

dozerly 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are, they probably just did slightly better at regurgitating leetcode problems than you

ElProlactin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did you apply for the VR porn training team?

dgellow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s a massive company, with more than 75k employees. At that scale you have to have a lot of dumb people

red-iron-pine an hour ago | parent | next [-]

and, like, literally you need some dumb or mediocre people.

you don't need 75k generals or fighter pilots, you need average folks who are going to STFU and get the unfun, unsexy tasks done.

you go trying to hire a Stanford/MIT hot-shot rockstar type and they'll either crash out or jump ASAP once they realize they got nailed with drudgery.

itronitron 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The employees at any particular company are a random sample of the population, and will therefore have traits that occur in the larger population.

dgellow an hour ago | parent | next [-]

No? It’s not a random selection. The interview process doesn’t just randomly pick people

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doublerabbit 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, you'd have to be pretty dumb to apply to work at Meta anyway.

dgellow an hour ago | parent [-]

Or ideologically aligned

mcmcmc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wouldn’t, lack of moral fiber is a key factor they look for

giancarlostoro an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's even worse that they overpay people who do this type of thing while at work.

morkalork 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How is their network security that lax? I feel like if I tried run a torrent at work, netops would be hunting my ass down immediately.

dfxm12 an hour ago | parent [-]

In my experience, executives get special treatment.

red-iron-pine an hour ago | parent [-]

like, literally send a request to the board for unlimited, no restrictions stuff.

this has happened at two (2) orgs I've been at.

executives take risks and responsibility, so the CTO/CISO got sign offs from everyone and took it to the board and got full CYA in both cases, too.

sandworm101 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does anyone honestly believe that Zuck doesn't have his own history with filesharing? Any computer nerd from that time would have deep knowledge of filesharing.

red-iron-pine an hour ago | parent [-]

we was all running napster

but i ain't dumb enough to do it off work IPs

throwyawayyyy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who'd have thought a Meta exec would be arrogant enough to assume they can get away with this (!!). /s

read_the_articl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From TFA: "Strike 3 suggests the downloads are consistent with work to make the headset compatible with adult films"

> The company logged all BitTorrent activity detected from the executive’s connection, which was nearly 20,000 files.

> This includes VR adult titles made for Meta’s Quest headset. Strike 3 suggests the downloads are consistent with work to make the headset compatible with adult films.

> As recently as August 25, Strike 3 says it recorded more than 150 daily downloads, from multi-language “Mega Packs” of TV shows, movies, software and books to what it describes as AI-generated pornography and VR adult films. That included nearly a dozen of its own titles.

chorizo an hour ago | parent [-]

Why was torrenting needed anyway? Meta could’ve easily reached out to adult media providers to work on VR headset compatibility under an NDA. Or hired a third party contractor to do it.

darth_avocado 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It’s much more expensive. You as a consumer can buy a movie for $5 with a DVD on sale. But tos generally don’t include commercial activities. If you reach out to the film studio to get their permission, they can charge you anywhere from $10K to $1M+ for same thing.

And I’m sure meta paid for some specific content but they generally wouldn’t want to set a precedent where they paid everyone.

fn-mote 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> And I’m sure meta paid for some specific content

Are you? I don’t understand why you think this. It seems like the only payments in this area are settlements after the fact.

Counterexamples welcome.

chorizo 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Meta wants to make their service compatible with meta vr headsets. They don’t require ongoing access to the content. The media vendor would also benefit from this, so an agreement is in the interest of both parties.

LoganDark 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Leaks would be a very, very big problem given how aggressively they want to promote child safety and restrictions.

chorizo 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Fair. Hence it makes sense to engage a third party vendor to handle this project. Both the media provider and Mets stands to gain here

huijzer 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Meta was using porn for AI training or …

Seems plausible. The material contains many hours of highly detailed human interaction plus I don’t expect Meta would have moral objections given their track record.

mmsc 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What is the moral difference between training on porn vs other genres of media?

infinite_spin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I suspect their goal is to train a model for detecting adult material, so that they can block it, which isn't necessarily an amoral goal

_trampeltier 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Just never ever ask how they train the models for CSAM.

infinite_spin 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'm not a fan of joking about those efforts. The people doing that work to catch predators and prevent their evil from reaching the general public are heroes.

cucumber3732842 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Guys we can't sell a VR headset that doesn't do porn good, nobody will buy it" seems just as likely to me.

infinite_spin 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't follow your logic, VR headsets are fully capable of displaying 3D scenes. That's a solved problem.

overtone1000 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But would still be a copyright violation

infinite_spin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not a lawyer, but in my view copyright violations center around distribution, not necessarily the method by which a work is obtained

e.g. if someone is reciting a poem they wrote in a public park, and I make a recording of that recitation, I have not violated their copyright in doing so, however I might violate their copyright by reconstructing that poem and then distributing it

irthomasthomas 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Which is why torrenting is the dumbest way to do this, since every downloader is also an uploader. That is what gets torrenters locked up. It is possible to leach only, but its not the default mode, and if this guy was broadcasting his IP address, then he was seeding... distributing.

infinite_spin 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

You expose your IP address even when not seeding, and I don't know if this person was seeding these torrents

jasonlotito 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> "In short, this is a lot for one person to torrent on an average day, particularly one who has a demanding job," Strike 3 writes. The company believes the pattern makes more sense as AI training data or research.

I hope they drag Meta hard and get every penny for this.

mc32 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

IT is usually not the one doing the enforcement. They typically only do the monitoring and may report some activity above thresholds.

Legal is usually the one initiating then engaging with HR to do enforcement.