150k TPM limit on public endpoint means that it's likely unusable for many coding tasks. When we've tried Cerebras in the past, our problem has always been rates. We'd love to not deal with dedicated and to have access to a more flexible rate pool.

Even trying it out, it seems like our account has gotten moved to some limbo where we can no longer add billing information.

``` Billing access restricted Self-serve billing is not available on Enterprise accounts. Please contact your team for further questions. ```

We have no team (they removed themself from our slack channel after we talked about rate limits). Perplexingly, none of this even shows up in the request, which gives:

``` {"message":"Model does not exist or you do not have access to it.","type":"not_found_error","param":"model","code":"model_not_found"} ```

When the error is really about billing.

I always want to like Cerebras, but I get the vibe that as a tokens in tokens out consumer you are not valued at all.

> 150k TPM limit on public endpoint means that it's likely unusable for many coding tasks.

I don't understand. How does that make it unusable? Is the limit shared by an entire team at once?

150,000 tokens per minute is a lot. You could start hitting that with a lot of concurrent requests in your session, but even throttled to 150k TPM it's still going to be faster than anything else you find.

I think the 128K context limit is the real ceiling. These models aren't amazing at long context, but once you account for a short input prompt, the input files, and headroom for a compaction summary, there isn't a lot left for the problem.

Cerebras the tech is awesome, cerebras the company is a trainwreck

What kind of coding tasks would you expect to hit that limit? In my setup, on a very large codebase, it takes each agent 3-4 minutes at minimum to go past 100k tokens.

(note it's 150k uncached tokens, the total limit is 450k/min)

This was my experience a year ago on some other model they could run super fast. Routine coding tasks would hit the per-minute token limits.

Just the math there... 150k TPM... and 15k TPS means... you can run for 10 seconds every minute?

The basic math boggles the mind.

Yeah, their public service isn't a serious/competitive offering. They don't have the capacity to serve all the customers who might want to use them at that speed. The public service exists so they get some users on OpenRouter, and that shows them as #1 on speed, which proves their tech is very fast, which gets them billions in hardware sales/licensing. If you have big enough pockets they can probably dedicate capacity to you. But for reliably fast small models you might want to rent some GPUs.