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| ▲ | tomComb 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Clearly you don’t read the economist | | |
| ▲ | 1attice 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I've read it since 1995 and I vividly remember them enthusiastically stanning Bjorn Lomborg's denialism. That's when I learned that the Economist is actually the world's first manifestation of a phenomenon now associated with ChatGPT: immaculately-phrased ideological assertions that are presented as common sense that all good, clever, right-thinking people already know. Like ChatGPT, the findings are delivered with polish and confidence, and like ChatGPT, you would not like what's in the sausage, were you to understand its provenance. It's devastatingly effective on a certain kind of man. | | |
| ▲ | goawaydang 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Honest Q: why are people so oblivious to what a shitrag the economist is? | | |
| ▲ | defrost 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Honest Question: what bearing does that have on the words written by and opinion of: Tim Palmer, Royal Society Research Professor Emeritus at the Department of Physics, University of Oxford.
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| ▲ | zeristor 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Have you seen the Prime Ministers who have graduated from Oxford? Johnson, Truss, etc Oxford is tanking. | | |
| ▲ | defrost 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Orthogonal to any current arc of Oxford, he's a graduate from the 1970s, elected to the US National Academy of Sciences, and a Royal Society Research Professor. Is attacking the man because of an institute the best you can do, rather than address the content of his writing? Maybe you take issue with the meat of, say, this from 26 years past: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rsta/article/378/2166/201... By all means say something meaningful. FWiW I too like The Goodies, Monty Python, and wouldn't mind seeing The Forever War given a film treatment by a good director ... just not a fan of ankle deep casual dismissal by association - it's not this chap's fault the UK keeps electing the wrong sort of toff. |
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| ▲ | antonvs 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I first read The Economist in the 1980s. Name a counterexample and I’ll show you how you’ve allowed yourself to be duped. |
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| ▲ | measurablefunc 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | anonymars 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Like a carbon tax? | | |
| ▲ | rickydroll 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, a carbon tax would go a long way, but I think a broader view is to look for ways to use taxes to shift externalities back onto the organizations that created the problem. For example, data centers (a popular demon). The two main externalities are water consumption and power consumption. The tariffs for providing those services to a data center should be high enough to compensate the rest of the community for the impact the data center has on the community. For example, tariffs could be used to subsidize non-data-center power users. Higher tariffs could also be used to fund community solar and community BESS, helping provide greater local grid resilience. For example, the tariffs should be high enough to subsidize everybody else so they don't have to pay more for their electric service, roughly speaking. I would also advocate closing the on-prem generator loophole by classifying on-prem power generation services as belonging to or leased from local utilities, and setting the tariff for locally generated power to match the tariff they pay for drawing from the grid. | | |
| ▲ | esseph 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I would also advocate closing the on-prem generator loophole by classifying on-prem power generation services as belonging to or leased from local utilities, Congrats, now all power generation is owned by the power company, including your own solar, wind, and fossil fuel generation. | | |
| ▲ | danans 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > your own solar, wind, and fossil fuel generation. The OP was clearly talking about on premises primary power generation for datacenters. The utility doesn't have a way to own my residential generation. | | |
| ▲ | rickydroll 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | They kinda do via net metering tariffs and curtailment. I'm a big fan of 0 export systems as a way to keep more for yourself. Now if one could get spot prices and sell your power then...the system gets more interesting. | | |
| ▲ | danans 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | > They kinda do via net metering tariffs and curtailment. They don't own your system through net metering. If you have net metering you are using the grid as a battery, which has a cost - the infrastructure to support net metering isn't free. For a long time residential solar customers (like me) were being subsidized for the upstream load we put on the grid. > Now if one could get spot prices and sell your power then...the system gets more interesting. They are running a pilot of this in California (PG&E): https://www.pge.com/en/account/rate-plans/hourly-flex-pricin... It's currently restricted to downstream only customers. They plan to admit net metering customers to the pilot in the future. Even outside of that, anyone can enroll a home battery in a demand response program to make money by supporting the grid during peak hours. | | |
| ▲ | rickydroll 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's why I said kinda. Strictly speaking, you are right. They don't own your system. However, to me if somebody controls what you do with your electricity I.e export or curtailed, you don't own the the work product of your system. Virtual power plant model you've described doesn't exist here in New England. National grid has some sort of thing where you can make a grand or two a year if they can use your battery during times of high demand. If I could do it standard off-the-shelf components, I could put together such a system for $6,000 installed but the payoff is in the decade range since we have flat rate power through municipal buying co-op. |
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| ▲ | rickydroll 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | An alternative would be a local tax on generator hours. |
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| ▲ | dgellow 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don’t know what the comment you responded to said, give it is flagged. But really, the time for carbon taxes was 15y ago. It’s not such a small bandaid compared to the size of the problem |
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| ▲ | wazdra 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sarcasm? |
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