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cube00 a day ago

> The tribunal acknowledged AI was improving access to justice for applicants with genuine, meritorious claims "who might otherwise have been deterred".

It's good the tribunal acknowledges we can't all necessarily afford the costs you may incur in those initial discussions with a lawyer. While there are pro-bono lawyers they have to make sure they're taking the cases with the best prospects for success so they don't go out of business themselves.

> "Most community members are aware of this kind of property of AI now where it has a kind of sycophantic tendency … and may in fact encourage people to believe that there are legs in a claim they're making when that may not in fact be the case."

It'll be interesting to see how the AI providers are going to balance the need for models to be engaging enough to keep the tokens flowing but not so engaging they give bad advice to encourage continued conversations.

hakesson a day ago | parent | next [-]

I have a friend who was drugged (date-rape style drug) and convinced to empty his account in an ATM. Woke up in a hospital without any memory of it. Some EU law forces banks to reimburse you when you didn't get the money of your free will - the LLM informed him about it and helped him to fill in all the forms etc and go through the full procedure, which included appealing the bank's negation to the "banco de España". He got his money. I think there are many cases where the LLM can help people that would never have the money to pay lawyers.

shakna a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

LegalAid (and other state-based services), actually do not need to make sure they're taking the cases with the best prospects for success. Because they're a state service.

The problem is more one of proximity to a city where they're based, rather than one of cash, or one of being an Australian citizen - the service is only for citizens.

cube00 21 hours ago | parent [-]

> The problem is more one of proximity to a city where they're based

I disagree, demand is outstripping supply.

Only 8% of households meet the tests for accessing Legal Aid and I'm not convinced in the current cost of living crisis the remaining 92% have enough spare cash to spend on lawyers.

The volume and complexity of legal issues in the community continues to outpace any growth in Legal Aid’s ability to respond.

In Victoria, the Public Understanding of Law Survey found that for every 10 respondents there are over 12 legal problems, with over half of those problems needing legal assistance that is not available.

Despite this growing demand, the report warns of a “justice deficit” with only eight per cent of households across Australia meeting the strict income and assets tests for accessing Legal Aid. [1]

[1]: https://nationallegalaid.org.au/policy-and-advocacy/reports/...

shakna 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Probably better to point to the actual independent review [0].

Point number two of which, is "There are parts of Australia where there are little or no legal assistance services provided to disadvantaged and vulnerable people. Governments should work with service providers and organisations like Victoria Law Foundation and the NSW Law and Justice Foundation to better understand these geographic areas of legal need and the nature and cost of the services needed to efficiently fill these gaps."

A large number of those unable to be serviced, are in fact, a question of proximity.

[0] https://www.ag.gov.au/legal-system/publications/independent-...

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