| ▲ | OsrsNeedsf2P 2 days ago |
| AeroShell seems to only have full support on X11. Didn't expect this argument to come up again |
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| ▲ | jck86 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Apparently you only want wayland based DEs and considered the argument to be over for everyone. How wrong were you. Lot's of people don't want to use wayland until it reaches a certain feature-complete maturity. I for instance have again put it off for another year and won't consider running a wayland only DE at all for the forseable future since it breaks too many things for no good reason and I need to be able to switch back to X11 if needed. I use my pc for for work, not just as a troubleshooting toy. Taking the topic into account of people moving from old school Windows 7 to this Windows-like distro, these people will probably be more pleased by X11 (hassle free screen sharing, global shortcuts) vs the wayland "in theory it is great and modern but in practice there still are way too many incomplete and missing pieces" situation. |
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| ▲ | cantrememberpw8 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| X11 is stable, mature, multiplatform, excellent software - wayland is not cross platform nor stable. |
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| ▲ | mixedCase 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Wayland is stable. What it's not is stagnant, like X11, which lacks fractional/mixed-DPI scaling, per-window HDR/color management, explicit GPU synchronization, and a security model ready for the modern challenges of the mid 90s. It's also technically cross-platform, as evidenced by FreeBSD's support for Wayland compositors. But it's not its goal either, the goal is an excellent Linux desktop, not something that serves the 17 people in the world that routinely run the same exact desktop config on Linux and non-Linux PCs. | | |
| ▲ | DanielHB 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The DPI thing is nuts, any high res monitor these days is unusable without some DPI adjustment. | |
| ▲ | exe34 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > What it's not is stagnant, like X11 X11 used to crash all the time, especially after an update, back when it was being vibrantly developed. It's been a lot more stable since it got abandoned. I've not had a crash in 13 years. |
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| ▲ | kombine 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > wayland is not cross platform nor stable. I've been using Wayland for two and a half years and it's been more stable than X11 that I've been using prior for years. | | |
| ▲ | pseudony 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | And I could say the opposite.
Anecdata, it isn’t really helpful. Fact is still that wayland does some things better, and a bunch og other things worse. | | |
| ▲ | ezst 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Matter of fact, the vast majority has moved on to Wayland years ago, both KDE and Gnome have reported their usage stats and neither sees a point in keeping X11 afloat. I too have been using Wayland (KDE) for years, it addressed some decades-long struggles around multi monitor and DPI layouts. I use input methods for CJK that work better and more consistently than before. As far as I'm concerned, this ship has sailed, for the better. |
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| ▲ | exe34 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | No, X11 got stable once they abandoned it! |
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| ▲ | Brian_K_White 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wayland is annoying out of touch crap that works well enough for some people to think it's good. Enjoy your Wayland. Surely all the people who aren't you must just be stupid. |
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| ▲ | a2128 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Don't be too alarmed by that notice, I use it daily on Wayland without any resulting issues as far as I can tell |
