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cantrememberpw8 a day ago

X11 is stable, mature, multiplatform, excellent software - wayland is not cross platform nor stable.

mixedCase a day ago | parent | next [-]

Wayland is stable. What it's not is stagnant, like X11, which lacks fractional/mixed-DPI scaling, per-window HDR/color management, explicit GPU synchronization, and a security model ready for the modern challenges of the mid 90s.

It's also technically cross-platform, as evidenced by FreeBSD's support for Wayland compositors. But it's not its goal either, the goal is an excellent Linux desktop, not something that serves the 17 people in the world that routinely run the same exact desktop config on Linux and non-Linux PCs.

DanielHB 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The DPI thing is nuts, any high res monitor these days is unusable without some DPI adjustment.

exe34 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> What it's not is stagnant, like X11

X11 used to crash all the time, especially after an update, back when it was being vibrantly developed. It's been a lot more stable since it got abandoned. I've not had a crash in 13 years.

kombine a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> wayland is not cross platform nor stable.

I've been using Wayland for two and a half years and it's been more stable than X11 that I've been using prior for years.

pseudony a day ago | parent | next [-]

And I could say the opposite. Anecdata, it isn’t really helpful.

Fact is still that wayland does some things better, and a bunch og other things worse.

ezst a day ago | parent [-]

Matter of fact, the vast majority has moved on to Wayland years ago, both KDE and Gnome have reported their usage stats and neither sees a point in keeping X11 afloat. I too have been using Wayland (KDE) for years, it addressed some decades-long struggles around multi monitor and DPI layouts. I use input methods for CJK that work better and more consistently than before. As far as I'm concerned, this ship has sailed, for the better.

exe34 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, X11 got stable once they abandoned it!