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hollow-moe 6 hours ago

Using icloud.com domain for legit and hidden adresses is such a typical Apple strategy of holding their own users and "others" (ie. other web services, other users etc) hostage simultaneously. But at least here it is actually a good reason that works for the user.

HeavenFox 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Case in point: many websites block all VPN except iCloud Private Relay. Thank you Apple!

consumer451 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Seriously, Apple is "big tech," but they are the only one that appears to give a crap about privacy at all. And really, they put a lot of money and effort into it.

We need to give kudos when they are due.

Apple's Private Cloud Compute should have won some kind of Nobel Privacy Prize, which for some reason does not yet exist.

cryptoegorophy a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

Only thing I wish they were 20 years sooner.

TheDong an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They still don't let me install uBlock origin + noscript. Whitelisting per-domain and per-site what can run Javascript does more for my privacy than anything else, and I can do that with firefox on linux and android, but on iOS I'm not allowed to install firefox.

There's obviously no real technical limitation since if you live in the EU you can sideload an alternative browser in theory (though apple has made it unrealistic in practice since they're ignoring the spirit of the law and instead doing their darndest to resist giving users even a whit of freedom).

int_19h 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple is luxury big tech.

In this day and age, privacy is luxury, so that's what they sell.

I don't think there are any ethical motivations for them (or any other large corporation - none of them have morals so they cannot act morally). It's just that there's a market niche, so it will be filled by someone.

saretup 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s an additional layer of wall for their walled garden to keep the technically proficient users that are more likely to hop walls.

tonyhart7 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

money from advertising basically dwarf user lifetime purchase of privacy tax you mentioned

refulgentis 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The person you're replying to is saying "Sites I use block all VPNs besides Apple's subscription service VPN" - I'm not sure they're not blocking it just because they fervently believe in Apple's privacy commitments and engineering :)

Only pointing this out because I love Apple's privacy story and don't want your reply to be misconstrued as sarcasm, and thus the reason why it enjoys a singular exemption is because its ineffective.

SkyPuncher 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’ve never been under the impression that privacy relay is anything like a true VPN. I mostly thought it stopped BS that happens on public WiFi and public sniffing. It’s meant to protect you only until you get to a major carriers infrastructure.

snazz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The design is supposed to be better than a true VPN, because neither Apple nor the exit node (Akamai, Cloudflare, Fastly) are supposed to know both who you are and what you’re doing. Of course, Apple pays them for this service, so they could exchange info.

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dilyevsky 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

how is the user being held hostage? you can redirect hide my email addresses to any domain

travoc 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Marketing turds can't just block registrations from all of @icloud.com.

dymk 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That doesn’t explain how the user is held “hostage” by Apple

HeavenFox an hour ago | parent [-]

Hostage may be a bad analogy. More like a game of chicken. Imagine you are a regular @icloud.com email user. Apple is basically saying "I dare you to block all @icloud.com email and lose all these customers"