| ▲ | You've heard of CSV files, but have you heard of CCSV files?(robida.net) | |||||||
| 16 points by surprisetalk 4 days ago | 7 comments | ||||||||
| ▲ | bariumbitmap an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
This comes up every so often. I think there are good reasons it hasn't caught on. Here's a relevant comment from ten years ago: > whole point is to be roughly human-readable and using non-printing characters defeats that. You can't even easily enter these things via the command line. > If we're abandoning human-readability, why even bother with ASCII? Just use a binary format. Has anyone actually used ASCII unit and record separator delimiters successfully? I'd be curious about what advantages they had over a binary format, even just a protobuf or Thrift serialized form. If we want to preserve schemalessness, there's stuff like Sereal. --- arjie, June 8, 2016 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11862769 Here's another one from more than twelve years ago: > I've done this. > Everybody hated it. Most text editors don't display anything useful with these characters (either hiding them altogether or showing a useless "uknown" placeholder), and spreadhseet tools don't support the record separator (although they all let you provide a custom entry separator so the "unit" separator can work). Besides the obvious problem that there's no easy way to type the darned things when somebody hand-edits the file. --- Pxtl, March 26, 2014 | ||||||||
| ▲ | nemothekid an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
The problem in practice with CCSV files, is they are no longer human editable, nor will tools like Excel automatically parsed them (maybe, I haven't checked in ~10 years, however I doubt CSV parsing has improved at all). If the files aren't human editable anymore, why stick with CSV at all? | ||||||||
| ▲ | willk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I think we hugged it to death. | ||||||||
| ▲ | saulpw an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
This is generally called ASV for ASCII-separated values, or USV for Unicode-separated values (e.g. U+241E, which is different from the ASCII U+001E equivalent). Also, as wonderful as this would be, as other comments say, no one uses it because no one uses it. | ||||||||
| ▲ | zmj 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I thought this was going to be about comma-separated CSV files. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | msephton an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Seems to be down | ||||||||