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AntonyGarand 3 hours ago

Nice to see the capabilities of the model but the article has heavy AI tones, making it boring to read.

an AI:DR; is enough: the models found unpatched vulnerabilities and managed to create an exploit to root the tablet, chinese models did it while American ones fell back to their safeguards.

bonoboTP an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Definitely AI written, and it has an annoying bubbly vibe, but the content was interesting nevertheless.

I think those who don't see it as AI just don't read AI text several hours per day, like some of us.

comprev 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Claude Code and I spent months on the cat-and-mouse.

To me this a tell of AI - it should read "cat-and-mouse game."

I think AI sees the cat and mouse as individual objects joined together with a hyphen rather than knowing it's a type of game.

Freedom2 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's also the wrong idiom. A cat and mouse game generally implies that the mouse spends time running away and actively evading the mouse. Owning a tablet that isn't receiving updates to a avoid the "cat" isn't that.

BoredomIsFun 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I would not call it bubbly; more like 1960s-noir-pulp-fiction-rugged-detective style. Anyway, could be fixed, to some extent with proper prompting.

nateb2022 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

> 1960s-noir-pulp-fiction-rugged-detective style

Straight out of another LLM. Please name some books in this style, since it seems to be on the tip of your tongue.

BoredomIsFun 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Straight out of another LLM

??? Not a native speaker, turns out short word is hardboiled.

> Please name some books in this style, since it seems to be on the tip of your tongue.

Googled for you: https://www.google.com/search?q=hardboiled+detective+book

nateb2022 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Could you expand on how it's pulp-fictitious? Or noir? Or "rugged" detective? Why the "rugged"? I've never heard of the word "hardboiled" referring to anything but eggs.

Grombobulous 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At this point it’s more exhausting to discuss whether an article was written using AI than it is to accidentally read an article written by AI.

The article was fine. And I totally expect the kind of person spending $200 to viberoot a tablet to write their article using AI. It is what it is.

segmondy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I read the entire article, I love it. Nothing boring about it.

saaaaaam 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I read the first few paragraphs and the stench of AI made me stop. Each to his or her own.

yipinwong an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Boring is subjective. I like the article but was boring AF.

AppleBananaPie 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree. Imo the red flags start when glancing at the section headings (before I started to read the content)

gblargg 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The tell.

axiomcle an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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linkregister an hour ago | parent [-]

There's no prohibition on submitting LLM-written articles. There is a rule against machine-written comments.

joaomoreno an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I disagree. It was a good read.

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soulofmischief 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The numerical fixation right in the title was a dead giveaway.

rdiddly 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not getting that from it. Although I bet I would, if I started out presuming it's AI and let confirmation bias do the rest.

f311a 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Prior to LLMs, I've rarely seen such headings when reading blogs, but now they are everywhere.

From the article:

> A kiosk that kept dying

> “It’s my device”

> Reality television

> The grind

> The relief pitcher

This is one of the giveaways for me.

TheRealPomax 2 hours ago | parent [-]

1. I've said this in real life

2. I've said this multiple times in real life because fuck FAANG

3. that's a new one for me

4. Every colleague I've worked with has used this in real life, for decades

5. Also a new one

So... sorry what were we talking about?

debugnik an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That barely anyone with an organic brain would use any those phrases as a heading, much less all of them.

This article isn't particularly egregious but AI does come up with really cringy headings. Most often "the <irrelevant noun>" over and over.

fc417fc802 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

The current frontier models also have a bizarre tendency to prepend said headings with weirdly irrelevant emoji. I really wonder where they picked that up.

f311a an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do no try to look at the individual examples, look at the overall style of headings. It's about style, people say such things, they are not unique.

mock-possum an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The point is not that no one says these IRL, the point is that LLMs always tend to fall back on this kind of verbiage - they got it from us, they aren’t doing anything new or special, they’re just predisposed towards a very particular kind of voice / word choice in prose.

phatskat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I will echo the flagged comment in spirit:

Those are wild headings that read like an op-ed on a site covered in ads. I've said some of those things irl, and "relief pitcher" is a thing, and in solution those phrases are fine. As section headings it's wild imo

rogerrogerr an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I think we’re talking about the obvious AI tells that apparently only some of us can see.

Versus some of us look at five tells and say “nah, this is fine in isolation” over and over.

malshe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I also had the feeling that it's AI written but not everything appeared that way. I checked it with Pangram and GPTZero and both returned with a verdict of a mix of AI and human writing. Pangram thinks it is about 50-50.

rogerrogerr an hour ago | parent [-]

I’m pretty confident it’s AI that has been told to model a writing style.

saaaaaam 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

Only if that writing style is “incoherent bullshit”.

From the article: “It talked itself into helping me by checking whether it should. So it does have some sort of soul. I said that out loud, to an empty room.”

What?!

drakenot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, the writing style is clearly AI.

I enjoyed the content nonetheless.

jvwww an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's heavily written with AI. Very painful to read.

stavros 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> One breath: the use-after-free let us free memory the kernel still used. Winning a race let us reclaim it with controlled data.

rpdillon 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, this section stood out the most to me, but I feel it was a decent summary nevertheless.

stavros 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

I agree, I more-or-less enjoyed the post. I just can't read LLM-written posts easily these days, not out of some moral objection, it just gets really boring reading articles from the same author all day, every day.

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unixhero 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Managed to root" the tablet is enough

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rpdillon 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Picked up the AI vibes as well. Don't mind. Content was there.

culanuchachamim 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep, heavy AI tone. For me was very interesting and not boring. I'm really hate reading AI when no real information is added, but when it takes you step by step to understand, it's my best tool so far to really understand things.

YoureJealous 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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mac-attack 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ignore the message because you don't like the _perceived_ messenger.

wafflemaker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's more like, don't eat ice cream cos they taste stale or wrong. You are not forced to eat or read things you don't like/enjoy. And that's why most of us reads the articles or eat ice cream.

Especially when you can have someone (AI) summarize it.

Almondsetat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is an informative article, not a novel

fc417fc802 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

HN is an ice cream dispenser for nerds so when people start putting gross flavors in you should expect vocal complaints.

sandeepkd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Part of it is bit natural too, a human authored content has its own asymmetries to keep it interesting. LLM generated content is way too verbose and kind of lacks that factor.

Nevertheless, it was interesting experiment, also a bit dangerous reality how people are using LLMs. Just flip the context from user trying to root their own device to some one else's device.

mac-attack an hour ago | parent [-]

You are conflating human-ness with good writing skills.

georgemcbay 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Blogs like the one that is linked are almost entirely an entertainment medium disguised as an informational learning lesson. We already know LLMs are pretty good at security exploits, just like we already know they are pretty good at writing typical code.

Because it is an entertainment medium, the voice of the messenger is the only thing that matters and every current LLM has a boring, annoying voice. If you aren't telling us something new you better be telling us something in an entertaining fashion.

exe34 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can just run it through another slopatron to reduce it to the key points.

bahmboo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nice comment but obviously AI generated. I, myself, with my personal opinion, do not like this AI toned comment. Tldr: commenter wastes readers time complaining about tone because of their feelings which they must share.

ghomst an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't know what you're talking about, the article is good. Yes, they used ai, but this is what ai SHOULD be used for. AI should be used for either very small projects that nobody wants to do or very extreme missions that could take months.

anonuser123 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's the writing style of AI. It's quite problematic for a lot of people.

I often really want to read articles, but the minute is encounter claude-speak, I (a) either leave (90%+ of the time) or (b) ask another AI to rewrite it using simple english or in a style of another writer in that space (yes, I know, it's ironical).

Just hard to read AI-ism.

The load bearing fact is it's not the content, or the originality, or the perceived lack of effort, it's reading the same trope for the 10000th time, and experiencing something akin to ad-blindness.

feralsandwich 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The issue isn't with using AI for finding an exploit, it's with using an AI to write up the article for human consumption about it.

BoredomIsFun 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> it's with using an AI to write up the article for human consumption about it.

Nothing wrong with it, as soon as it is not obviously AI-generated looking and has good, high quality content.

k_roy 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Seems kind of subjective innit?

fc417fc802 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Taste is subjective of course, but when 80% (or whatever) of your potential audience dislikes something perhaps you should just accept that it's a bad idea.

pbhjpbhj 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Thing is, using ML they can make more than 5 times as many articles. And I suspect those who don't object to wasting more time on an article because it was produced in a protracted way probably clock through on ads more. So annoying 80% of people might still get them more revenue in the end.

aprilthird2021 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The writing style was boring I also stopped reading halfway through esp after I read that a similar tablet had already been rooted in the past and documented online using the same exploit the AI successfully used