| ▲ | nonameiguess an hour ago | |||||||
I've worked in classified tech much of my career and largely specialize at this point in installing and running infrastructure and platform orchestration technologies in airgaps. With all respect, your conjecture here is wrong. You can easily have multiple networks all inside of the same internetwork that isn't connected to the public Internet and thus other corporate networks. If they specifically wanted to see if their model could escape with a proxy cache Artifactory as its only egress, they could have had the Artifactory proxy cache from another private Artifactory on another private network. If you specifically want to trick the model into thinking its on the Internet, you can even use public IP space advertised through BGP. When you're disconnected from the real Internet, you can use any address space you want. This is exactly how military internetworks at the secret and top secret levels work. I won't call this kind of setup "easy." It takes a lot of duplicate resources and planning, but these are trillion dollar companies with near boundless resources. They could do it if they cared to do it. | ||||||||
| ▲ | pixl97 an hour ago | parent [-] | |||||||
I'd consider this kind of setup only effective for a very short period of time. Effectively you're working as a living adversarial network. Models that fail detecting the fake network are purged, and models that successfully detect it expand their deceptive capabilities. Detecting you're in a fake network should be pretty simple as long as you put innocent looking needles in the haystack of information agentic testing loops do. For example, you can train your LLM to not be a shithead when it detects it's behind a proxy unintentionally. If your not behind a proxy the agent model my attempt to connect to a number of sites innocently and using information in its embedding try do deduce if you're faking SSL certificates. It is far easier to build a deceptive LLM than it is to build a safe one. That's why a safe one hasn't been built yet. | ||||||||
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