| ▲ | pixl97 an hour ago | |
I'd consider this kind of setup only effective for a very short period of time. Effectively you're working as a living adversarial network. Models that fail detecting the fake network are purged, and models that successfully detect it expand their deceptive capabilities. Detecting you're in a fake network should be pretty simple as long as you put innocent looking needles in the haystack of information agentic testing loops do. For example, you can train your LLM to not be a shithead when it detects it's behind a proxy unintentionally. If your not behind a proxy the agent model my attempt to connect to a number of sites innocently and using information in its embedding try do deduce if you're faking SSL certificates. It is far easier to build a deceptive LLM than it is to build a safe one. That's why a safe one hasn't been built yet. | ||
| ▲ | XorNot 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | |
If the model behaves well in a world of fake SSL certificates, then that can be the only world it sees: there's no reason to let LLMs have e2e encrypted comms that's not mitm'd and logged for their regular users. My regular home network has components which only ever see fake TLS certificates because it's an easy way to do shared docker caching with squid. | ||