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| 109 points by mariuz 4 hours ago | 42 comments |
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| ▲ | mort96 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Does anyone understand how HDMI 2.1 support is now no problem? I remember that 2.1 support in AMD's open source driver was blocked by the HDMI forum, but I haven't heard any news about them unblocking it. What changed? |
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| ▲ | lashkari 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It doesn't give any specifics about what changed on the HDMI Forum side, but this article [0] from June indicates that Valve worked closely with AMD to get it pushed through prior to the release of the Steam Machine (which supports HDMI 2.1 VRR). [0] https://www.digitalfoundry.net/news/2026/06/valves-hdmi-2-1-... | |
| ▲ | seanw444 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As far as I can recall: some internal implementation documentation leaked which made the legal position tougher for them somehow to protect it as proprietary (it made sense when I heard it explained, but now I feel like I'm missing an important detail to that), and then Valve had some talks with the HDMI Forum to convince them to let it go, presumably so they could have such support integrated into Linux for their hardware (Deck, Machine, Frame, etc). So now the HDMI Forum just doesn't really care anymore I guess. | | |
| ▲ | gary_0 an hour ago | parent [-] | | IIRC, a non-AMD contributor was working on adding HDMI 2.1 support to Linux's AMD driver, and then AMD managed to get the HDMI Forum to see that their position was moot and was making things very awkward for AMD. | | |
| ▲ | mort96 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Oh this makes sense! Obviously, it can't be illegal for a non-forum-member to add HDMI support; it's just an HDMI forum policy after all, not law. That's certainly the link I was missing for this to make sense. |
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| ▲ | dayofthedaleks an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | White collar crime is legal now so IP violation is a pretend concept. Update - Happily eating the downvotes on this one. | | |
| ▲ | calgoo an hour ago | parent [-] | | Only if an AI does it, so make sure the vibe code the driver |
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| ▲ | yipinwong 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this?
So i can glance your insight? |
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| ▲ | farlight 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | As a long time desktop and server user, why do I look at changelogs... New filesystems and major changes to existing ones (large performance improvements, new features like adding better compression standards which I now know I can use, fixes to long-standing bugs which open new use cases). New protocols like wireguard when it was new and exciting (still is now that I think of it). When that was mainlined, I knew I had some network rearchitecting to do. New device drivers like amdgpu when it was massive news. Less so these days since most hardware is well supported, and I don't buy the absolute latest. New kernel APIs which I can use in my programs — like landlock, when it was merged I knew it was time to improve sandboxing in some of my stuff. Though LWN and kernel newbies do it best, already linked by others. | |
| ▲ | sph 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's a well-formatted changelog of the most salient features of the release. Linus doesn't provide one apart from a list of added commits and merged branches, which isn't very useful unless you are a kernel developer. | | | |
| ▲ | tuna74 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think it is mostly "marketing" for Igalia's services. If you want to pay people to do "stuff" in Linux and adjacent projects like Mesa, Igalia seems very competent. | |
| ▲ | igleria 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | hi audience, we know about this stuff you use on a daily basis, you may be interested in our executive summary of the latest release of the stuff | |
| ▲ | gchamonlive 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't think there is much too it, it's a consulting firm. Would you hire a consulting firm with an empty tech blog portifolio? It's ticking a box, it's stating it's a consulting firm in tech, that it's target audience are companies with Linux machines etc... | | |
| ▲ | yipinwong an hour ago | parent [-] | | ty. so very narrow audicence it seems. Per @sph, as Linus provide no changelog, seems like the firm is putting it together for others |
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| ▲ | Retr0id 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I for one am excited about HDMI 2.1 support on AMD. | | |
| ▲ | seanw444 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's more than that: free and open support for HDMI 2.1 in general. Previously it was only proprietary implementations that didn't leak the spec which were allowed. AMD is just the only one that has really good open source drivers which can benefit from it, and didn't work around the problem by converting HDMI to DisplayPort in a proprietary on-board GPU chip. | |
| ▲ | yipinwong an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | OK, now this is what I wanted to know as well.
I was not aware that changelogs show all this inf. ty for sharing |
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| ▲ | OtomotO an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Okay, so ELI 5 why I would now use HDMI instead of DP? All my monitors support DP, my GPU has more ports for DP ... I am genuinely interested as I've never even considered using HDMI for my Desktop. |
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| ▲ | drdexebtjl an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If you’re using a TV. They rarely have DP ports. | |
| ▲ | ThatPlayer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | HDMI 2.1 carries more bandwidth than DisplayPort 1.4. Plenty of GPU/monitors have that port arrangement, as recent as Nvidia's RTX 40 Series. | | |
| ▲ | preisschild an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah but this is for amdgpu and they had DP2.1 support for a while now. | | |
| ▲ | ThatPlayer 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That doesn't help when the monitors don't have DP2.1 support. | | |
| ▲ | preisschild 30 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I havent seen a monitor (besides tvs) that has HDMI2.1 but not DP2.1 | | |
| ▲ | ThatPlayer 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I can tell you mine does: a Corsair XENEON 27QHD240. Or the somewhat popular and badly named Acer Nitro XV275K P5biipruzx I'd say it's usual for displays released 2-5 years old. HDMI 2.1 got somewhat quick monitor support for consoles, but search for "first DP2.1 monitor" gets results from 2024 | |
| ▲ | MBCook 22 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | And that parenthetical is exactly why people care. TVs. |
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| ▲ | ulfbert_inc 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | HDMI is a king on consumer TVs. Linux (in form of SteamOS) is becoming a major console gaming platform thanks to Valve. | |
| ▲ | whalesalad an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I have been using HDMI to game on TV for most or all of my adult life. Mostly console gaming. A few years back I built a dedicated gaming rig, but I still use it with a controller from my couch connected to a TV. So this is a win for couch gamers and open source in general. |
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| ▲ | hndbwksam7 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Great context, thanks for adding it |
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| ▲ | bigwheels 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why is DRM being implemented in the Kernel; What is the profile for an end-user who wants this in their FOSS? |
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| ▲ | telotortium 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Here it doesn’t mean “digital rights management”, but “Direct Rendering Manager”, a component of the kernel’s graphics stack: https://docs.kernel.org/gpu/?utm_source=chatgpt.com | |
| ▲ | voxic11 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | People who want to play video games, or watch videos using hardware decoding, or train machine learning models? DRM here means https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager > DRM exposes an API that user-space programs can use to send commands and data to the GPU and perform operations such as configuring the mode setting of the display. > User-space programs can use the DRM API to command the GPU to do hardware-accelerated 3D rendering and video decoding, as well as GPGPU computing. | |
| ▲ | Shish2k 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The Direct Rendering Manager is useful for any Linux user who wants to display things on a monitor (unless you're happy with like 640x480 VESA, in which case maybe you don't need it) | |
| ▲ | Lorkki 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is DRM as in Direct Rendering Manager, which is the kernel interface to GPU hardware; not Digital Rights Management. | | |
| ▲ | cogman10 27 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Named long before Digital Rights Management was a thing (or at least the 3 letter acronym existed for it). |
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| ▲ | lultimouomo 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Different DRM, the one in the kernel is Direct Rendering Manager, which is basically managing access to the GPU. | |
| ▲ | sapphyrus 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DRM refers to Direct Rendering Manager in this context. | |
| ▲ | dralley 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DRM = Direct Rendering Manager. GPU scheduling. | |
| ▲ | proxycon 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | its the Direct Rendering Manager, not the other DRM |
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