| ▲ | whateverboat 6 hours ago |
| > Framework really caught everyone's attention with the fun DIY repair angle, but Dell/Lenovo/HP have been selling repairable laptops to IT departments for decades. Yeah, but does Dell allow you to change your laptop's mainboard for another mainboard with time? That is such a quantum leap. You do not have to adjust your self to a new keyboard just because you wanted a new processor. |
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| ▲ | artisinal 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| A chassis is 10% of the cost of the laptop. Reusable chassis just to put new hardware in isn’t something the average consumer is interested in. Also, buying a new mainboard every few years and putting the old mainboard on a shelf is a lot less sustainable than buying a complete new laptop and selling your old laptop to someone. |
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| ▲ | randomblock1 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not just the chassis, it's also the screen, storage, RAM, ports, speakers, battery, and so on. And there is lots of demand for old mainboards, they sell pretty quick on Ebay. More sustainable to only buy and sell the part you need than the entire laptop, especially factoring in shipping costs. Plus the mainboards can be used like a mini PC. | |
| ▲ | adgjlsfhk1 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The place where the framework design really pays of is the ability to trivially swap ports. most laptops have the usbc on the motherboard so a warn out connector is a $800 repair. Even those that have separate daughterboards for IO typically will be a ~1hr+ take everything apart to fix. With a Framework, replacing a worn out connector is ~$15 and 15 seconds. | | | |
| ▲ | aners_xyz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You can take the old mainboard and slot it into a cheap case and run it like a slim pc. | |
| ▲ | adolph 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I agree with your point on chassis/mainboard matching but wrt "putting the old mainboard on a shelf," Framework does have some cases for bare mainboards made by coolermaster and I think the 3d printing files are available. |
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| ▲ | a2ff6eeb0 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yeah, every time they change my laptop's mainboard, they definitely do it with a ton of time. |
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| ▲ | bluedino 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Are there many laptop mainboards available and what is the price like? |
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| ▲ | craftkiller 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, I started with their first laptop (11th gen Intel DDR4 ram) and upgraded to the 7040 AMD board with DDR5 ram. Now there's even newer boards available with desirable features like LPCAMM. Framework has absolutely delivered on the "upgradable mainboard" promise. There's also 3rd party ARM and RISC-V mainboards, but I'd recommend the average user sticks to the x86_64 boards. |
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| ▲ | pudgywalsh 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > but does Dell allow you to change your laptop's mainboard for another mainboard with time Business laptops are swapped out every few years. Reusable chassis? Literally no one asked for this, it makes no sense outside of a very, very small community of enthusiasts who think it's cool. Restricting yourself to no mechanical changes/improvements in perpetuity is not the flex you think it is. Keyboards wear out, the chassis gets dented/scratched. Thermal requirements change. This feature is for no one. |
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| ▲ | guerby 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Old frame.work mainboards make fantastic proxmox home servers: 3 watt idle 8 cores 64 GB RAM. |
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