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| This is nothing new Israel has been doing this for years. It's just that people have started waking up to their lies. |
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| ▲ | codingisfreedom 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | Georgelemental 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Qatar lies Netanyahu said that "Qatar is not an enemy country". Is he wrong about that? https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-14/ty-article/.p... | | |
| ▲ | bawolff 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I mean, they did bomb them. you don't do that to friends. I doubt there are any true friends in the middle east, just temporary allies of convinence. | |
| ▲ | codingisfreedom 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don’t support Netanyahu, and so does close to 50% of Israelis. Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges. If you don’t trust Netanyahu then you should disregard the link you shared as well and that just strengthens my point. | | |
| ▲ | y-curious 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah but the Haredi will outbreed the rational liberals of Israel and vote towards extremism. If there was a Muslim country with as much power as Israel attacking other countries, it would equally be right to call it out. | | |
| ▲ | codingisfreedom 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s mostly the national settlers that pull it toward extremism at its current state, not Haredim. But it’s also October 7 that made the average joe even more extreme in their opinions. |
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| ▲ | magic_hamster 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges. This is absolutely true but people don't want to hear about this. Qatar is the main propagator of many student bodies in the US. This is how you get students saying "gloabalize intifada", "death to the USA”, occupying buildings, etc. Qatar has a long, well funded strategy for influence in the west which is pretty much their only leverage. In addition they are the main funders of Hamas, alongside hosting the Hamas leaders in fancy hotels in Doha for many, many years. |
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| ▲ | hunterpayne 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Its a messy situation. Qatar hosted HAMAS's bot farms and leadership until 2024 (or 2025, I don't remember) when Israel destroyed it with literal bombs dropped by a F-35I. That happened quite near to both a Qatari military base and a US military base. That doesn't happen unless the Qatari military/government gave approval. I'm no expert in Qatari politics but I would guess that there are significant support for HAMAS in the population. The politicians probably wanted HAMAS leadership and IW operations out of their country, but they also wanted plausible deniability with their own population. So given all of that and assuming there are things happening we don't understand, is Qatar an enemy of Israel? Publicly the answer is no. But its probably also dependent on their respective interests and situationally independent. |
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| ▲ | polotics 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | """far from being a perfect state""" ???
it's been captured by a bloodthirsty clique, and all the intelligent & wise people in it are leaving | | |
| ▲ | codingisfreedom 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It has been captured by bloodthirsty clique is true. But so does the US and every other nation around Israel. Just check the facts about each and every government in the middle east. | | |
| ▲ | polotics 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | what about not whatabouting facts? we are not talking about the miss universe contest here. keep your identity small, it will help you think more clearly. | | | |
| ▲ | protocolture 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean the bloodthirsty clique that has captured the US is called Israel. | | |
| ▲ | polotics 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think that's true either. I get the feeling it's more of a "flood the zone" Steve Bannon style "disrupt the other continents" geostrategic drunken-master kung fu. |
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| ▲ | Barrin92 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >>When Obama used social networks, he was called a genius, but when it’s someone you don’t like Obama used social networks to spread a milquetoast 'yes we can' message, not to justify an ongoing genocide. How is that even a comparison. Israel is closer to Triumph des Willens than it is to promoting the Affordable Care Act, you do realize that right? It's not 'far from being a perfect state', it's waging old testament wars of extermination on its neighbors and towns | | |
| ▲ | codingisfreedom 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It has been attacked by a Palestinian militia terrorist group. Is it waging old testament wars? No, but it is retaliating at a rate the western world refuses to accept because the western world has different, much much milder kind of problems. | | |
| ▲ | customguy 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That kind of euphemism is just a joke in light of the racist and fascist rhetoric by Israeli pundits and politicians, how they call even babies terrorists, while at the same time making shit up about beheaded babies and whatnot. Even just the sheer cruelty and stupidity IDF soldiers put on display proudly, voluntarily, would wholly refute it. Israelis making their joke videos about Palestinians by itself would suffice. Only a deeply sick, deeply evil and deeply stupid society can create such artifacts. You may come to a different conclusions, but you may not gloss over all the input into that judgement. | | |
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| ▲ | choo-t 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Israel has been defending itself against for 78 years in both the physical and informational domain, and will continue to do so, just like any other country on earth. Of course we could argue any country try to defend itself, but an ever expanding bellicose colony stealing lands from adjacent countries is hardly what could be described as a "defending" stance. > People need to wake up to the one-sided lies of the antizionist hate movement that single it out and want to destroy it and its people. The end of a State doesn't mean the end of its citizens.
It simply mean that a state apparatus and power structure is taken down and replaced by something else. | | |
| ▲ | hackernud3s an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | |
| ▲ | nailer an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > ever expanding bellicose colony stealing lands from adjacent countries is hardly what could be described as a "defending" stance. Asides from the idea that Jews can colonise Judea, Israel returned Sinai to Egypt and left Gaza in 2005 only returning after the recent Hamas murder/rape rampage, which shows ‘ever expanding’ to be an obvious lie. |
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| ▲ | elzbardico 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You don't start an international terrorist movement, bomb british colonial authorities, use money to influence british colonial authorities, create armed miliciais and massively finance migration to a land that is owner by other people, kill and expell them by violent means from their cities, homes and farms, use your influence to force the UN to partition the land giving the majority and the best land for you, and then ignores this partition wanting even more land and then you get to call it defense. | | | |
| ▲ | smalllangmodel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Defensive ethnic cleansing, defensive genocide... | |
| ▲ | aa-jv an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The bodies of dead children speak for themselves. | | |
| ▲ | nailer an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yes! Hamas deliberately attacked Jewish children like the Bibas twins and that girl that watched her father slaughtered whereas the IDF put Israeli soldiers lives on the line to avoid civilian casualties. | | |
| ▲ | Ozzie_osman 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, but statistically Israel (IDF + settlers) commits crimes like that on a daily (sometimes hourly) basis. | |
| ▲ | aa-jv 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > the IDF put Israeli soldiers lives on the line to avoid civilian casualties. Nonsense. |
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| ▲ | DiogenesKynikos 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Who knew that seizing the literal holy land and expelling most of the native population would make the neighbors angry? | | |
| ▲ | FabHK 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | About equal numbers of Palestinians were displaced from the new, UN sanctioned state of Israel, as Jews from adjoining states. And many many more people have been displaced since then. While undoubtedly tragic, most displaced people at some point move on with their lives, and stop terrorising their neighbours and the world. | | |
| ▲ | Ozzie_osman 30 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > While undoubtedly tragic, most displaced people at some point move on with their lives, and stop terrorising their neighbours and the world. The irony is that this statement (which I disagree with) could be applied equally well to both Israel and the Palestinians. |
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| ▲ | codingisfreedom 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | watwut 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Therefore it is ok to commit genocide, ethnic cleansing and steal land two generstions later? Israeli leadership is as fascist as it gets. Openly so. | | |
| ▲ | codingisfreedom an hour ago | parent [-] | | If that ethnic group assembles a military group that invades your border and slaughters 1200 of your people in 1 day, then retaliation is expected. FAFO. But I suspect you know nothing about Jews besides social media. Next thing you’ll say we’re not native to that land right? We only lived in the middle east forever, but our food is cultural appropriation too, right? | | |
| ▲ | dana-s an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Explain to me like I'm 5, how a nation capable of such propaganda to install bombs in communication devices, hacked to be bought by leaders of terrorist organizations, capable of bombing the leader of Iran did NOT know about this attack? And if they did know, didn't do anything to prepare for it? | |
| ▲ | smalllangmodel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Retaliation by starving and shooting over 20000 kids? https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-says-netanyahu-knew-for-... | | | |
| ▲ | watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > If that ethnic group assembles a military group that invades your border and slaughters 1200 of your people in 1 day, then retaliation is expected. FAFO. Note that I said ethnic cleansing and genocide, both go on and went on for years. Also, it is Israel who is expanding, putting settlers in places where they should not be. The idea that the ethnic group being pushed away is not allowed to defend themselves and if they do they should be subject of genocide is literally fascist. Israel is not engaged in self defence as much as they are engaged in aggression. |
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