| ▲ | the_origami_fox 2 hours ago |
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| ▲ | choo-t 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Israel has been defending itself against for 78 years in both the physical and informational domain, and will continue to do so, just like any other country on earth. Of course we could argue any country try to defend itself, but an ever expanding bellicose colony stealing lands from adjacent countries is hardly what could be described as a "defending" stance. > People need to wake up to the one-sided lies of the antizionist hate movement that single it out and want to destroy it and its people. The end of a State doesn't mean the end of its citizens.
It simply mean that a state apparatus and power structure is taken down and replaced by something else. |
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| ▲ | modo_mario 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | How would you envision the end of the state? | |
| ▲ | hackernud3s 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | |
| ▲ | nailer an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > ever expanding bellicose colony stealing lands from adjacent countries is hardly what could be described as a "defending" stance. Asides from the idea that Jews can colonise Judea, Israel returned Sinai to Egypt and left Gaza in 2005 only returning after the recent Hamas murder/rape rampage, which shows ‘ever expanding’ to be an obvious lie. |
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| ▲ | elzbardico 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You don't start an international terrorist movement, bomb british colonial authorities, use money to influence british colonial authorities, create armed miliciais and massively finance migration to a land that is owner by other people, kill and expell them by violent means from their cities, homes and farms, use your influence to force the UN to partition the land giving the majority and the best land for you, and then ignores this partition wanting even more land and then you get to call it defense. |
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| ▲ | smalllangmodel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Defensive ethnic cleansing, defensive genocide... |
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| ▲ | aa-jv an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The bodies of dead children speak for themselves. |
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| ▲ | nailer an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yes! Hamas deliberately attacked Jewish children like the Bibas twins and that girl that watched her father slaughtered whereas the IDF put Israeli soldiers lives on the line to avoid civilian casualties. | | |
| ▲ | Ozzie_osman 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, but statistically Israel (IDF + settlers) commits crimes like that on a daily (sometimes hourly) basis. | |
| ▲ | aa-jv 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > the IDF put Israeli soldiers lives on the line to avoid civilian casualties. Nonsense. |
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| ▲ | DiogenesKynikos 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Who knew that seizing the literal holy land and expelling most of the native population would make the neighbors angry? |
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| ▲ | FabHK 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | About equal numbers of Palestinians were displaced from the new, UN sanctioned state of Israel, as Jews from adjoining states. And many many more people have been displaced since then. While undoubtedly tragic, most displaced people at some point move on with their lives, and stop terrorising their neighbours and the world. | | |
| ▲ | Ozzie_osman 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > While undoubtedly tragic, most displaced people at some point move on with their lives, and stop terrorising their neighbours and the world. The irony is that this statement (which I disagree with) could be applied equally well to both Israel and the Palestinians. |
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| ▲ | codingisfreedom 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | watwut 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Therefore it is ok to commit genocide, ethnic cleansing and steal land two generstions later? Israeli leadership is as fascist as it gets. Openly so. | | |
| ▲ | codingisfreedom an hour ago | parent [-] | | If that ethnic group assembles a military group that invades your border and slaughters 1200 of your people in 1 day, then retaliation is expected. FAFO. But I suspect you know nothing about Jews besides social media. Next thing you’ll say we’re not native to that land right? We only lived in the middle east forever, but our food is cultural appropriation too, right? | | |
| ▲ | dana-s an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Explain to me like I'm 5, how a nation capable of such propaganda to install bombs in communication devices, hacked to be bought by leaders of terrorist organizations, capable of bombing the leader of Iran did NOT know about this attack? And if they did know, didn't do anything to prepare for it? | |
| ▲ | smalllangmodel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Retaliation by starving and shooting over 20000 kids? https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-says-netanyahu-knew-for-... | | | |
| ▲ | watwut an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > If that ethnic group assembles a military group that invades your border and slaughters 1200 of your people in 1 day, then retaliation is expected. FAFO. Note that I said ethnic cleansing and genocide, both go on and went on for years. Also, it is Israel who is expanding, putting settlers in places where they should not be. The idea that the ethnic group being pushed away is not allowed to defend themselves and if they do they should be subject of genocide is literally fascist. Israel is not engaged in self defence as much as they are engaged in aggression. |
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