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| ▲ | jareklupinski 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > addiction is the problem of the users which have nothing better to do than scroll the app - 1996 Purdue Pharma "began a massive marketing campaign", based on a "unique claim" for OxyContin, with FDA permission, that, "as a long-acting opioid, it might be less likely to cause abuse and addiction than shorter-acting painkillers like Percocet." - 3 February 2021 Consultancy McKinsey and Company agreed to pay $573 million to 47 state governments to settle claims it advised "Purdue Pharma and other drug makers to aggressively market opioid painkillers." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_opioid_epidemi... give it 25 years i guess |
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| ▲ | egman_ekki 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That doesn’t quite explain why eg parents are scrolling instead of
being attentive to their kids (something that our brains are wired to pay attention to), people are scrolling instead of paying attention while driving, riding a bike, or walking
Even people on their job watch youtube instead of paying attention while riding a train so that they don’t miss red lights (I’ve read of a couple of instances in the news), etc Apparently, there’s somthing so addictive that our society cannot function properly with everyone glued to screen microdosing dopamine into their brains. |
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| ▲ | jazzyjackson 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | Indeed, I’m impressed Apple dodges the blame for creating the hardware that enables the addiction just as much as the apps. | | |
| ▲ | owebmaster 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also Amazon for selling smartphones. Let's blame everybody so the true responsible for the algorithms can continue getting away with it. |
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| ▲ | jraph 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not at all, the problem is with the apps that are carefully designed to create that in users. |
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| ▲ | codedokode 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nobody forces the user to use the app. And from the screenshots I see online, Meta's app, Threads is used mostly by adult people to post dating stories and jokes. Do not consider this dangerous. Instagram is also used mostly by adults. As for Facebook, I do not know who uses it. | | |
| ▲ | rolandog 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | You needn't shill for big tech companies; on the contrary, good and sensible regulation has been eroded by all the lobbying efforts these monopolists have done and the pressure of the faux-conservatives that portray themselves as victims of persecution against their free speech rights (when they had been correctly flagged as posting harmful content or hoaxes [0]). [0]: https://youtu.be/nf7XHR3EVHo | | |
| ▲ | codedokode 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | But if Facebook made feed less addictive, would not it become more boring and hard-working Joe would not be able to have a rest after a working day? | | |
| ▲ | rolandog 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There are a couple of fallacies you've managed to bundle there: 1. Doomscrolling Facebook/Instagram is not equivalent to rest 2. Although rest is a good reward for a hard day's work, you're conflating Social Media Usage with resting, which has been proven to be detrimental to overall well-being [0], and associated with poor sleep quality (i.e. detrimental to rest). 3. You were saying that addiction was a user problem, but now you're acknowledging the addictiveness of the platform Your response may have been facetious and sarcastic, but your previous replies suggest that that wasn't the case. [0]: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12529-025-10411-9... | |
| ▲ | owebmaster 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's better than vodka, right? Right? |
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| ▲ | godelski 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > To be fair, addiction is the problem of the users
You're not wrong, per say, but it feels like saying the crack epidemic is the fault of the users, when there's lots of auxiliary factors. There's way more social pressure for social media. Really we're even actively encouraging "crack use" here. There's tv ads and lots of public support. Hell, anyone that deleted their Facebook (especially around or before the Cambridge Analytica scandal) knows how sticky the platform is. Network effects aren't nothing. Hell, just getting my friends to talk to me on Signal rather than WhatsApp or Facebook messenger (which I don't have) is a pain.You're not wrong that it's an addiction but there's a big difference between a person being addicted to something and a society being addicted. The response should be different because the situation is different |
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| ▲ | TitaRusell 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | In the US they first responded with "personal responsibility" but as the drug epidemic started to really impact society it was the Republicans of all people who founded the DEA... |
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| ▲ | watwut 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > To be fair, addiction is the problem of the users which have nothing better to do than scroll the app. That is not fair at all. Meta spent millions A/B testing and engineering the most addictive product possible. On purpose. It is entirely fair to blame them for the addictive result. And for outrage they intentionally engineer too. |
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| ▲ | snovymgodym 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| lots of people have better things to do and still scroll the app |
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| ▲ | Bluestein 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| One could go into a reasonable argument about how, people, when given a more stimulating set of activities available, would avoid doom scrolling themselves to death. That misses the point, though perhaps valid: The point here is that a loophole in our reward-machinery became widely abused for profit, after having almost hijacked interpersonal communication while masquerading as a social utility, thus performing what might be the most harmful, misleading, insidious bait-and-switch ever imposed upon mankind.- |
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| ▲ | codedokode 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I read about New Mexico decision and the court ordered to implement age verification. Addiction is just an excuse. | |
| ▲ | jambalaya8 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I personally enjoy knowing all of them and all of us using the internet for anything other than just looking up the time are teaching AI how to not weigh the importance or believability of a thing. |
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