Pretty sure woke gimp was long discontinued

clarionbell an hour ago | parent | next [-]

https://itsfoss.com/news/glimpse-gimp-fork-archived/ Yep, it's dead.

I don't want to revel in the fork's demise for any reason besides relief that it didn't end up splitting GIMP's contributors and community in a way that would have harmed both projects.

> we could not find contributors willing to step up and help with non-code tasks like moderating communication channels

Gotta say though it feels ironic that they couldn't find enough people to be comment janitors considering the whole thing was based on wanting people to stop saying a particular word.

> As a result, we struggled to scale the project to match increasing demand.

‘Glimpse didn't fail; it was actually too popular’?

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ChocolateGod 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's the thing, they didn't take any GIMP contributors.

Everyone that was behind Glimpse was third party to the GIMP project.

	▲	pndy a minute ago \| parent [-]
		This wasn't even a serious project but an example of malicious virtue signaling with a long-term plan for sort of hostile takeover. People involved just took the original code and replaced every GIMP occurrence with Glimpse, added new logo/icon and called job done. Then went to the news sites trying to raise awareness of the supposed name controversy hoping noise will discredit GIMP while they'll portrait themselves as the saviors, because who'd want to contribute to a software that has such bad reputation. Nearly every discussion regarding GIMP on hn will include thread about the name 'problem' and this is getting tiresome. It's been over 24 years for me since I've used GIMP for the first time and the only problem that exist for me was always with GUI ergonomics. You had to understand everything anew after being more accustomed to proprietary software pieces. My friend never adapted to anything else but Photoshop - even Krita is beyond her abilities.

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ben_w an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm surprised it got that epithet, I'm used to "upset by weird sex stuff" as being a US-right position, and "woke" being a term that's used by US-right to denigrate US-left.

Then again, I'm also old enough to have seen it shift significantly in meaning at least once, and I think I'm seeing it shift meaning again.

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SwellJoe an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Before the weird sex stuff, "gimp" was an insulting term for a crippled person. The fact that it's so long out of common use for that purpose that a lot of folks don't realize that is perhaps an argument for not taking it too seriously. On the other hand, disabled folks are certainly among the most oppressed and abused and in ways that aren't well-understood by most folks, so a decent person should be pretty careful about using language that could be demeaning. I dunno. It feels like an archaic term that ought not have any power today, but what do I know?

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TeriyakiBomb an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In the UK, it’s the sex one and would be used as a general “idiot” word but that seemed to have mostly faded away. It’s not a word I’ve seen used in that context for many years.

Not refuting anything here, just adding some context from over here. Whichever way you slice it, it’s always been an awful name.

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SwellJoe 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it's always felt like an "edgy" name a teenager or quite young man would come up with. Which makes sense, the original GIMP authors were college-aged boys when they created it.

I'd like it if they changed the name. We're (the Open Source community) not teenagers or annoying college kids anymore, by and large.

	▲	____mr____ 6 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The issue is that there are a bunch of people like this[0] who get incredibly upset and politicize any attempts to be "the adult in the room" and ask for renaming of unsavory names. The funniest of these is when Europeans talk about how they are being "forced" to comply with American cultural norms and you go through their account and they are so deeply steeped in American culture due to their participation in the anglophone internet spaces which are dominated by them. People in Europe will argue with you that you are importing woke culture if you suggest that they shouldn't say the N word, but are seemingly completely oblivious to the fact that the reason they find the word exciting to say and they say it in English is an import of American culture [0]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49327771

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ChocolateGod 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Before the weird sex stuff, "gimp" was an insulting term for a crippled person. The fact that it's so long out of common use for that purpose that a lot of folks don't realize that is perhaps an argument for not taking it too seriously

It's a US specific slur when used in this context, not in other English speaking countries (let alone non-English countries) A lot of GIMP developers are European yet the Glimpse project tried to force American cultural/linguistic rules on a non-American project.

Words mean different things in different regions and languages, just because it's offensive in your language does not mean it's offensive in others.

	▲	SwellJoe 17 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		They didn't try to force anybody to do anything. They forked a Free Software project as allowed by the license. You seem awfully sensitive.

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Lammy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Personally I just prefer to avoid the debate and call it “GNU IMP” v(._. )v

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curtisblaine 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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