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ben_w an hour ago

I'm surprised it got that epithet, I'm used to "upset by weird sex stuff" as being a US-right position, and "woke" being a term that's used by US-right to denigrate US-left.

Then again, I'm also old enough to have seen it shift significantly in meaning at least once, and I think I'm seeing it shift meaning again.

SwellJoe an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Before the weird sex stuff, "gimp" was an insulting term for a crippled person. The fact that it's so long out of common use for that purpose that a lot of folks don't realize that is perhaps an argument for not taking it too seriously. On the other hand, disabled folks are certainly among the most oppressed and abused and in ways that aren't well-understood by most folks, so a decent person should be pretty careful about using language that could be demeaning. I dunno. It feels like an archaic term that ought not have any power today, but what do I know?

TeriyakiBomb 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In the UK, it’s the sex one and would be used as a general “idiot” word but that seemed to have mostly faded away. It’s not a word I’ve seen used in that context for many years.

Not refuting anything here, just adding some context from over here. Whichever way you slice it, it’s always been an awful name.

SwellJoe 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it's always felt like an "edgy" name a teenager or quite young man would come up with. Which makes sense, the original GIMP authors were college-aged boys when they created it.

I'd like it if they changed the name. We're (the Open Source community) not teenagers or annoying college kids anymore, by and large.

____mr____ 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

The issue is that there are a bunch of people like this[0] who get incredibly upset and politicize any attempts to be "the adult in the room" and ask for renaming of unsavory names.

The funniest of these is when Europeans talk about how they are being "forced" to comply with American cultural norms and you go through their account and they are so deeply steeped in American culture due to their participation in the anglophone internet spaces which are dominated by them. People in Europe will argue with you that you are importing woke culture if you suggest that they shouldn't say the N word, but are seemingly completely oblivious to the fact that the reason they find the word exciting to say and they say it in English is an import of American culture

[0]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49327771

ChocolateGod 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Before the weird sex stuff, "gimp" was an insulting term for a crippled person. The fact that it's so long out of common use for that purpose that a lot of folks don't realize that is perhaps an argument for not taking it too seriously

It's a US specific slur when used in this context, not in other English speaking countries (let alone non-English countries) A lot of GIMP developers are European yet the Glimpse project tried to force American cultural/linguistic rules on a non-American project.

Words mean different things in different regions and languages, just because it's offensive in your language does not mean it's offensive in others.

SwellJoe 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

They didn't try to force anybody to do anything. They forked a Free Software project as allowed by the license. You seem awfully sensitive.

Lammy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Personally I just prefer to avoid the debate and call it “GNU IMP” v(._. )v

curtisblaine 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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