| ▲ | A 3rd World Embedded Engineer Responds to "RISC-V They Should Have Known Better"(rvembedded.com) |
| 133 points by Narishma 2 hours ago | 44 comments |
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| ▲ | HawtAds an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| I love the article, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes. However there's just one issue: > The students I want to teach are in the same position, and so are the ones in Nigeria and Bangladesh It does not take $60 to ship small sub $1 chips from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. These two countries are all on global trade routes (both supply and demand) and the expensive last mile delivery costs are fairly low there too. |
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| ▲ | bigcat12345678 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This is a bay area centric take on a non bay area centric take. The typical bay area centric take has the following vibe: 1. I am among the group of most open minded people 2. I admit mistakes, but I don't change my view, that means I may make the same mistakes next time on a different concrete cases 3. Morally I am among the least corrupted 4. I work for the moderately morally questionable firms with nice paychecks, but my moral views are not tainted a bit 5. I never think on the other's perspectives | |
| ▲ | TruffleLabs an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is this comment on shipping costs from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh based on your experience? If there is a less expensive way then share the approach to help others :) | |
| ▲ | em-bee an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | i don't know how trustworthy rateships.com is, but according to them shipping costs to nigeria and trinidad are similar. and as for the last mile, the cost probably goes up because local shipping is rather unsafe (higher rate of theft of packages). | |
| ▲ | spacechild1 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. Bangladesh is a country in Asia... | | |
| ▲ | pooper 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | In my experience, people in the United States often (incorrectly) short hand East Asia as Asia just like the people in the city of New York will often (correctly) short hand New York City as New York. | | |
| ▲ | tyre a few seconds ago | parent | next [-] | | Slight correction, people in NY refer to it as “The City” and people in NYC say the same, but specifically mean Manhattan. | |
| ▲ | chronic7403 4 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > In my experience, people in the United States often (incorrectly) short hand East Asia as Asia just like the people in the city of New York will often (correctly) short hand New York City as New York. In my experience, the only demographic who complains about “Asia = east Asia” are people from South Asia, aka Indians/desis |
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| ▲ | cyberclimb 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think they are necessarily asserting otherwise | | |
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| ▲ | alephnerd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes... HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH and CEE. Presumed RISC-V hate is a perfect example of that - the UCs and CSUs have been using RISC-V in their curriculum since the 2010s becuase Patterson is faculty at Cal and most CompArch courses in both systems have been using RISC-V as a result because 61a/b/c are often used as the benchmark curricula wise. An entire generation of Californian computer engineers have been RISC-V fluent as a result. The hivemind assumption that HN's user base is "venture capital", "tech bro", "founders", and "Silicon Valley" is around 5 years out of date. Anecdotally, the vast majority of younger (below 30) founders, engineers, VCs, and builders in the Bay have either not heard of HN or quit it within weeks due to toxicity. | | |
| ▲ | greyb an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | >HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH. I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and especially centric to the mindshare of the Bay Area's IRL conversations, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH. | | |
| ▲ | weinzierl 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | As someone from the DACH region I very much agree with this. I don't see a shift from typical US opinions to opinions often held in the DACH region. Not at all. | |
| ▲ | r3trohack3r 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. >> HN remains very US-centric Bay Area != US The Bay Area is its own microcosm of culture and philosophy that diverges significantly from much of the US. Not making a statement on how prevalent either are on HN, but Bay Area is very much not equivalent to the US. | | |
| ▲ | MBCook 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | As an American, it’s extremely Silicon Valley centric, at least in mindset. Extremely. The valley/startup lens is absolutely the dominant one. |
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| ▲ | alephnerd an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH. The majority of HN's usership, posting, and comment activity occurs during peak EU work hours (3am-9am), stylistic patterns that are common for German-native speakers are increasingly prominent, and the fact that IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene are entirely different from those on HN shows a massive divergence in userbase. HN "Who wants to get hired" threads are a good example of that as well. I'd recommend deep diving in the HN scrape dataset on HuggingFace [0]. The site has diverged heavily compared to 2018 or 2012. [0] - https://huggingface.co/datasets/open-index/hacker-news | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | How would you say the "IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene" diverge from HN? | |
| ▲ | snowpid 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | While I appreciated your source
1.) I doubt 99% of Europeans work during 3am - 9am
2.) At least there can be other reasons:
2a.) EU times and African times are basically the same and Africa has a huge population.
2b.) India is closer timewise to EU/African time zones
2c.) What are about posts afterworks? " RL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene are entirely different from those on HN shows a massive divergence in userbase. "
Any proof? |
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| ▲ | snowpid a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | " HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH and CEE. " I like to encounter discussions about German digital health system or the German start up system or neo2. I've never seen them so I doubt it. Also almost no debates about Polish stuff (Hello neigbours!) | |
| ▲ | GPerson 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How is it not tech bro centric when every third thread is about some new feature of a random Anthropic product? | |
| ▲ | orangeboats an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Non-American here... what is DACH? | | | |
| ▲ | handwarmers 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | the fact that this comment is getting downvoted into oblivion instead of discussed is poignant enough. fwiw, my experience is similar. hn has not been about startups, vc funding, or anything in that space for quite a while. to paraphrase a classic, this place is like a memory of the forum we used to love, and the memory is fading. |
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| ▲ | jacquesm 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | So, you are calling the author a liar? |
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| ▲ | Sha1rholder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nice read! Though it feels a bit strange that "I have exceeded the allowed number of requests. (500 times)" when I first clicked the article and I'm pretty sure I don't share the ip of my self-hosted VPN with anyone. |
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| ▲ | msephton 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is the sort of content I endure this place for. Thanks for posting. |
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| ▲ | moomin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Absolutely hugged to death. |
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| ▲ | avmich an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| To me it feels like the difference in positions is "this could be made better" vs. "but this is already so much better than before". Both are right. Maybe I'm missing something important so far... |
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| ▲ | IshKebab 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah the complaints in the original article are valid, but it's like complaints about Android or iOS. There are plenty of valid complaints against either, but neither is strictly better than the other. |
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| ▲ | kqr2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Original HN discussion referenced:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49298035 |
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| ▲ | decide1000 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That is just an amazing website and initiative. https://rvembedded.com/products/project-lab/ Definitely interested! |
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| ▲ | Lagoon3384_SWE 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just an unlucky spawn point. We need to focus on ourselves. "oh no shipping to some remote island is expensive compared to NYC that has next day free on everything" Well, duh. |
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| ▲ | MBCook 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | So “you were born somewhere ‘unlucky’, that’s how it goes, sucks to be you”. Is that really your take? | |
| ▲ | soulofmischief 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Naïve take. We live in a global neoliberal economy, our standards of living are the direct result of introducing scarcity and other forms of exploitation elsewhere while keeping domestic populations largely unaware of how unfair their position is. There is no ethical basis to simply "focus on ourselves" here. We must do the exact opposite. |
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| ▲ | msla 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Rate Limit Exceeded" Does anyone have an archive? |
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| ▲ | epolanski an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The author of the article just got a fan. Some serious stuff he builds on top of those chips. |