| ▲ | HawtAds 2 hours ago |
| I love the article, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes. However there's just one issue: > The students I want to teach are in the same position, and so are the ones in Nigeria and Bangladesh It does not take $60 to ship small sub $1 chips from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. These two countries are all on global trade routes (both supply and demand) and the expensive last mile delivery costs are fairly low there too. |
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| ▲ | bigcat12345678 an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is a bay area centric take on a non bay area centric take. The typical bay area centric take has the following vibe: 1. I am among the group of most open minded people 2. I admit mistakes, but I don't change my view, that means I may make the same mistakes next time on a different concrete cases 3. Morally I am among the least corrupted 4. I work for the moderately morally questionable firms with nice paychecks, but my moral views are not tainted a bit 5. I never think on the other's perspectives |
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| ▲ | tekla 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | As exemplified in the following series of essays https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-foothills-of-bay-area-h... | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This one was more self-aware than others. But we all know the demon voice of San Francisco sounds like a shoggoth trained on LessWrong. | |
| ▲ | msdz 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thank you so much for sharing these. I just laughed my ass off a bunch, and I’ve only yet read this one latest post in the series. My favorite bit, I think (along with the running gag of the constant use cases/connections that somehow pop up for Epstart’s founder): > “Would you like to hear more about how copying AI tics helps me keep conversations going?” > “Uh, sure - wait! No!” You break off and turn around as fast as you can. If the other entries in the series are anywhere near as good, I’ll have some reading to do now. |
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| ▲ | TruffleLabs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is this comment on shipping costs from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh based on your experience? If there is a less expensive way then share the approach to help others :) |
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| ▲ | em-bee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i don't know how trustworthy rateships.com is, but according to them shipping costs to nigeria and trinidad are similar. and as for the last mile, the cost probably goes up because local shipping is rather unsafe (higher rate of theft of packages). |
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| ▲ | notenlish 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It could be bureocratic barriers. For example, Turkey recently changed importing laws so that anything(even stuff sent to you for free) from outside the country is subject to tariffs & import costs. Importing a cheap component worth 1$ costs like 300$. |
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| ▲ | gaius_baltar 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It does not take $60 to ship small sub $1 chips from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh So don't even try to find how expensive is bring these to Brazil. Even the $5 orders from JLCPCB become infeasible for hobbyists here due to all the roadblocks. |
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| ▲ | spacechild1 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. Bangladesh is a country in Asia... |
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| ▲ | farlight 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I am in Asia, this means nothing, it's the largest continent on earth. I don't pay as much for shipping as the author does, but his struggles are nevertheless relatable: most sellers refuse to ship here, most of those who do want dozens and dozens of dollars for it, and some (few, usually Chinese) sellers save the situation from being completely hopeless. | |
| ▲ | pooper an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In my experience, people in the United States often (incorrectly) short hand East Asia as Asia just like the people in the city of New York will often (correctly) short hand New York City as New York. | | |
| ▲ | bonoboTP 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It's an interesting evolution given that Asia as a term started out meaning just the westernmost tip of current-Asia, ie Western Anatolia. | |
| ▲ | tyre 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Slight correction, people in NY refer to it as “The City” and people in NYC say the same, but specifically mean Manhattan. | |
| ▲ | chronic7403 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > In my experience, people in the United States often (incorrectly) short hand East Asia as Asia just like the people in the city of New York will often (correctly) short hand New York City as New York. In my experience, the only demographic who complains about “Asia = east Asia” are people from South Asia, aka Indians/desis | | |
| ▲ | andybak 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Ironically (for my generation in the UK at least) "Asian" meant "South Asian" and for a long time we didn't have a useful shorthand for "all parts of Asia" | |
| ▲ | Conan_Kudo 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | We aren't the only ones, but we are the loudest about it, because erasure sucks. | | |
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| ▲ | BigTTYGothGF 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So is Ireland. | |
| ▲ | cyberclimb an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think they are necessarily asserting otherwise | | |
| ▲ | spacechild1 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | So what does it mean to ship from Asia to Bangladesh? Do you ship from India, Iran or Indonesia? Or just within Bangladesh? :) | |
| ▲ | Ar-Curunir an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Shipping from Asia to Asia doesn’t make much sense | | |
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| ▲ | alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes... HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH and CEE. Presumed RISC-V hate is a perfect example of that - the UCs and CSUs have been using RISC-V in their curriculum since the 2010s becuase Patterson is faculty at Cal and most CompArch courses in both systems have been using RISC-V as a result because 61a/b/c are often used as the benchmark curricula wise. An entire generation of Californian computer engineers have been RISC-V fluent as a result. The hivemind assumption that HN's user base is "venture capital", "tech bro", "founders", and "Silicon Valley" is around 5 years out of date. Anecdotally, the vast majority of younger (below 30) founders, engineers, VCs, and builders in the Bay have either not heard of HN or quit it within weeks due to toxicity. |
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| ▲ | greyb 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH. I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and especially centric to the mindshare of the Bay Area's IRL conversations, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH. | | |
| ▲ | weinzierl an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | As someone from the DACH region I very much agree with this. I don't see a shift from typical US opinions to opinions often held in the DACH region. Not at all. | |
| ▲ | r3trohack3r an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. >> HN remains very US-centric Bay Area != US The Bay Area is its own microcosm of culture and philosophy that diverges significantly from much of the US. Not making a statement on how prevalent either are on HN, but Bay Area is very much not equivalent to the US. | | |
| ▲ | MBCook an hour ago | parent [-] | | As an American, it’s extremely Silicon Valley centric, at least in mindset. Extremely. The valley/startup lens is absolutely the dominant one. |
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| ▲ | alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH. The majority of HN's usership, posting, and comment activity occurs during peak EU work hours (3am-9am), stylistic patterns that are common for German-, French, and Polish-native speakers are increasingly prominent (eg. periods and spaces instead of commas in numbers, spacing between quotation marks and words, failing to use context clues to infer timezone), and the fact that IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene are entirely different from those on HN shows a massive divergence in userbase. HN "Who wants to get hired" threads are a good example of that as well. I'd recommend deep diving in the HN scrape dataset on HuggingFace [0]. The site has diverged heavily compared to 2018 or 2012. [0] - https://huggingface.co/datasets/open-index/hacker-news | | |
| ▲ | Avicebron an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | How would you say the "IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene" diverge from HN? | |
| ▲ | snowpid an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | While I appreciated your source
1.) I doubt 99% of Europeans work during 3am - 9am
2.) At least there can be other reasons:
2a.) EU times and African times are basically the same and Africa has a huge population.
2b.) India is closer timewise to EU/African time zones
2c.) What are about posts afterworks? " RL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene are entirely different from those on HN shows a massive divergence in userbase. "
Any proof? |
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| ▲ | orangeboats 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Non-American here... what is DACH? | | | |
| ▲ | snowpid 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | " HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH and CEE. " I like to encounter discussions about German digital health system or the German start up system or neo2. I've never seen them so I doubt it. Also almost no debates about Polish stuff (Hello neigbours!) | |
| ▲ | GPerson 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How is it not tech bro centric when every third thread is about some new feature of a random Anthropic product? | |
| ▲ | handwarmers an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | the fact that this comment is getting downvoted into oblivion instead of discussed is poignant enough. fwiw, my experience is similar. hn has not been about startups, vc funding, or anything in that space for quite a while. to paraphrase a classic, this place is like a memory of the forum we used to love, and the memory is fading. | | |
| ▲ | bigbadfeline 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > this place is like a memory of the forum we used to love, and the memory is fading. Well, this place (wherever you are) is like a memory of the world we used to love, and the memory is fading... Definitely true too. You can't expect a place tightly connected to a changing world to stay the same. |
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| ▲ | jdw64 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| So, you are calling the author a liar? |
