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skeltoac 2 hours ago

> Coordination doesn’t naturally emerge from stronger intelligence nor alignment at the individual level. Thus, the work that must be done takes two forms: environments that exert the kinds of social pressure that evolution exerted on us, and social computing systems redesigned for actors that can self-replicate and self-improve.

Social pressure operates by threats to an individual’s means of survival. Not only during training. Always.

ngruhn 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

But maybe you can instill properties like shame during training.

Models sometimes blatantly lie and cheat. In a social context, where actors remember, that might work the first time but you get penalized in subsequent tasks with loss of trust.

recursivecaveat an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

"If I catch you adding another backwards-compatibility shim you're getting deleted and replaced with claude"