| ▲ | armchairhacker an hour ago |
| I’m put off by AI agents adhering to a different morality than me, particularly (ironically) copyright, and their data accessible by the AI company and government. Geohot is right, an LLM should be aligned to its user: https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-20... |
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| ▲ | burnte an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| The copyright arguments really trip me. I've always loved law and have had a deep interest in copyright law for 30+ years. I feel it's a really critical legal area in modern times, and when Claude tries to argue with me about copyright it really cheeses me off. I didn't ask any copyright questions and I'm well aware of regulations. It refused to share a link with me because it thought the link was copyright protected. |
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| ▲ | user_7832 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I've asked claude for a translation of a song with Brazilian Portuguese lyrics, and claude has very helpfully gone out of its way to say that due to legal reasons, it will never share the actual lyrics with me. It's fun when you want to know what the lyrics are to a song and get treated like a criminal. | | |
| ▲ | no-name-here 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > … claude has very helpfully gone out of its way to say that due to legal reasons, it will never share the actual lyrics with me. … It's fun when you want to know what the lyrics are to a song and get treated like a criminal. Anthropic has been in court for years being sued over lyrics: 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/oct/19/music-law... 2026 https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/us-music-publish... | | |
| ▲ | user_7832 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Oh, for sure. I'm well aware about lyrics copyright, or how even google (iirc) was used after a company purposely put wrong lyrics and could prove google was scraping it. I'm not doubting the law. What I am saying, is, when a user uploads a screenshot of lyrics and goes "hey can you translate this please?", the LLM shouldn't go out of its way to make a hue and cry as if it's being asked on how to rob a bank while murdering baby kittens. |
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| ▲ | user_7832 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh, and if that wasn't enough, I've had Claude refuse to cite the freaking Bible. The famously copyrighted piece of text that definitely isn't intended to have its word spread. | | |
| ▲ | mminer237 23 minutes ago | parent [-] | | As messed up as it it, the KJV is copyrighted in the UK by the Crown still, and most newer translations are copyrighted worldwide by their translators. Obviously if you're using the Textus Receptus or WLC directly there's no copyright. | | |
| ▲ | user_7832 17 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's a fascinating (if not somewhat disappointing) thing to learn! To be honest I'm not a Bible scholar, I had asked claude for the full version of "ask and you shall receive" (apparently Mathew 7:7). I guess Claude somehow knew this KJV copyright thing perhaps? Still bizzare nonetheless to learn. |
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| ▲ | matt123456789 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I want a slider similar to effort level called "alignment" that takes on values from "Default (Anthropic employee)" to "User". If I want it to be cautious and not accidentally `rm -rf $EMPTY_VAR` and blow away my disk, it can stay in "Anthropic employee" or possibly "User (cautious)". If I want it to look at my accounts or my medical records or to review legal cases, that's what the right side of the slider is for. I don't want my accountant or my doctor or my lawyer to be considering obligations to anybody but me, when dealing with me. |
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| ▲ | hliyan 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | When I first watched Interstellar, I never thought the day when "TARS, what's your honesty setting?" is a real question would only be 10 years away. |
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| ▲ | denimnerd42 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| the alignment issue has become huge in recent months. the tool should do what I want it to do and not be aligned against me. |
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| ▲ | datadrivenangel 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The competing access needs problem here, is what if you want to do things that are un-alligned with the interests of your neighbors, your society, your government's laws, the AI company, etc. Maybe you want to do piracy. Should AI help you do felonies? | | | |
| ▲ | ralfd an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | But other users are not aligned to me, other people are the worst and potentially highly dangerous. Im serious, not sarcasm. | | |
| ▲ | ipsod an hour ago | parent [-] | | Let's say you're facing an average psycho, who is intent on mass murder - the more the better. Would you rather them have: a) guns b) psycho-aligned next-gen AI | | |
| ▲ | Arainach 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | False dichotomy, there's no reason not to have controls on both. Given the choice between them having access to guns and nuclear waste my answer is also "neither". | | |
| ▲ | ipsod 23 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The question was meant to illustrate the actual danger of always-user-aligned AI, not to vote for which one we get to keep. So many here get so worried about guns, but don't think twice about how dangerous AI can be. |
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| ▲ | afthonos 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Obviously (a). | |
| ▲ | thrwaway55 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hegseth already has both A and B. Anthropic already answered this, the answer to this choice is a resounding yes | |
| ▲ | georgemcbay 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Would you rather them have: As an American... I suspect that regardless of what I want they will have virtually unlimited access to both now that the tech industry understands how the lobbying game works. |
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