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67 points by yen223 4 hours ago | 19 comments
carlgreene an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Hedonic adaptation really is something. I have been deeply trying to appreciate these modern marvels more and more, but it's hard.

A hot shower, air almost 50 degrees cooler than the outside air coming out of my vents, communicating instantly thousands of miles away, it's all so easy to just forget and take for granted

xnx an hour ago | parent | next [-]

We need a Netflix Chaos Monkey tool for modern life. Each week one modern convenience stops working for a day: indoor plumbing, air conditioning, electricity, wifi, automobile, air travel etc. after one day without, you will again appreciate those things for the next few years

abroadwin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Can confirm. As someone living on well water in an area with semi-frequent power outages in winter I have periodically been given renewed appreciation for the value of power, central heat and running water.

Now I have a great standby generator, though, so I'm sure I'll start taking it all for granted again soon.

PaulHoule 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

I live in an 1850s farm house with a spring up the hill and a backup well with a pump for those Augusts where the trees pull all the water out of the ground (not quite this one!) Our main heating system is two wood stoves with a small propane heater as a backup.

The power goes out a lot in the winter but at least we are cozy, particularly with today's LED/Lithium lights.

greytape an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is called: "going camping".

xg15 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Or "living in an apartment with affordable rent"...

IAmBroom 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just attended a 9,000-person medieval camping event, where most camps are lit with individual solar power. The only power grid usage by most of us was that site water was pumped by electricity. Due to high mineral content, few of us drink straight from the tap, and every camp has stored water, soft drinks, and so on.

The entire county lost power for about 8 hours. From the social media posts, you would have thought people were undergoing severe hardship, because they had to wait 1/3 of a day for their propane-heated showers. Also, some were angry that the county hadn't done more to plan for these situations... which happen maybe once every decade or so.

MarkusQ 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If our education system, hiring processes, onboarding/skill transfer support, career development pipelines and similar systems continue to degrade, we should have something like what you're asking for before too much longer.

karmakurtisaani 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

We'll have vibe-designed houses, sewer systems, electronics and the like. Cheap, and almost work 85% of the time!

ChrisArchitect an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_engineering#Chaos_Monkey)

pizzathyme 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It's true. The negative takeaway is that is no matter what miracles come in the far future (free energy, perfect health care, infinite resources, infinite intelligence), people will eternally be wanting, take things for granted, focused mainly on the things they don't have and can't do. It's the human condition.

marssaxman 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is an interesting premise, and I would like to read the article, but the weird scrolling makes that almost impossible; the pictures overlay the text to such an extent that I can only read a couple of lines at a time. I wish there were some browser feature that would force sites to use normal scrolling.

GPerson 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can’t imagine ever affording such a nice apartment.

arjie 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

In the US, it's pretty easy. My wife used to live in the Tenderloin for $2400/mo and her place was nicer than this because she was good at putting things together. I don't happen to have a photo of the whole studio handy, but here's the view from the window: https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/images/b/b7/Photo_-_San_Fran...

altcognito 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All true but a reminder that basic health care, natural foods and a safe environment are out of reach for too many. We have definitely improved on the distribution of foods and even safe environments, but there are insitutional blockages that would go a long way.

Sometimes I think that the truly wealthy and powerful are convinced suffering is necessary lest we devolve into universe 25

jawiggins 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Another good article on this topic for those who enjoyed: https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/we-live-like-roy...

incorporeal an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I think about this stuff a lot. It's crazy how I, like, water plants with clean water that's literally on tap. Warm showers on-demand are a daily miracle.

Immediate illumination for why people don't quite feel like royalty despite all this would be achieved by replacing the aesthetic of this presentation with mis-matched uncomfortable and ugly furniture picked up off the side of the road, in a cheap split-level or ratty single wide with carpet that should have been replaced a decade ago and fucked-up window blinds et c., a kitchen table piled with a mess of homework and a pile of 20 medical bills and "EOB" letters and crap generated by a single brief visit to a hospital some of which are almost certainly in error and will take hours on the phone to correct, and so on. The presentation is upper-middle-class and comfy as hell. It's an aesthetic that my family is only slowly and haltingly and with much bargain-hunting (even Ikea is kinda spendy, IMO) struggling toward even with top-10% (for the US, let alone globally!) household income, and will never quite achieve because reality doesn't look like that. I know it's not the main point of the site, but the way they've elected to illustrate this notion is interesting in that it suggests a critique of, or elaboration on, the actual main point.

Like, I'm scrolling through this and my thoughts are on how expensive this environment is. I don't have my spices in cute well-sealing matching jars that look nice on a shelf... because that shit's expensive. Mine are mostly stale... because non-stale spices are expensive and take effort and education to track down. Hell some of mine are probably contaminated with heavy metals and I don't know it. Behind all of this is price-anxiety and ambient stress.

The core idea is sound and worth highlighting, but the reality of "so much is available extremely cheap in nearly unlimited quantity and variety! Isn't that fantastically amazing!" is exhausted parents doom-scrolling the Netflix catalog for an hour before going to bed having watched nothing, as they stress about whether their kids' dental appointment tomorrow is going to turn up anything so expensive they have to defer it and scrimp and save to pay for it.

MarkusQ 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

> "...doom-scrolling..."

This may be the load-bearing point of your lament.

Avicebron 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Are you somehow blaming the parents in the commenters hypothetical?