> It will become very easy to build most software

We keep hearing this, but where is the Photoshop killer written by a gas station attendant? Where is the PayPal alternative written by a retired nurse?

Over and over we're told that software is now trivial to write, and Claude is evidently writing some billions of lines of code a day, but where are the results? Where is the vibe coded app toppling the legacy hand-coded monster product from 20 years ago?

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threatofrain an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Why ask such extreme stuff? Why not ask about the solo entrepreneur who creates a convincing iOS app without a programming background? Advantage the problem on the side of ML and look for winning scenarios today.

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mrbombastic 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

because this comment is responding to: "I think the field is basically over as a long term career unless you are truly exceptional. It will become very easy to build most software"

photoshop, paypal, and many more companies etc. have software of vast complexity that cannot be reproduced or maintained today solely with llms, ipso facto you still need software developers or some similar role to build and maintain the complexity of _yesterday_

some guy shipping an iOS app to zero users doesn't change that. although i think it is good we can have more bespoke software.

	▲	mikert89 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You aren’t getting it. They can pay their engineers half what they used to, you don’t need the same level of skill to build photoshop. Yes, you need a bunch of engineers, but they will be driving coding agents, not writing code by hand. They can be hired and fired for cheap

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deaton 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

See this is the big issue I've been seeing. The only vibe coded product I can think of off the top of my head that's succeeding at all is Bun, and maybe I'm behind the times but it feels like Bun's success is mostly being pushed by Anthropic; I've yet to see much other than Claude Code use it.

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mikert89 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the future is already here, its just not evenly distributed

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pydry an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the "iceberg" of boring company systems I see working day to day I actually think delivery of production software has been slowed down. The cost of "writing" code went down a bit, while validation costs positively exploded.

There are definitely more apps developed these days but I haven't seen anything much vibe coded which actually seems to have staying power. Everything is prototype quality.

	▲	deaton 16 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Now you can make a prototype without understanding what's going on internally or why the prototype wasn't good enough!

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ex-aws-dude 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Every time I see people say this I think: show me the money?

If its so good why aren't you rich?

	▲	SoftTalker 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Why would anyone get rich doing something easy?