See this is the big issue I've been seeing. The only vibe coded product I can think of off the top of my head that's succeeding at all is Bun, and maybe I'm behind the times but it feels like Bun's success is mostly being pushed by Anthropic; I've yet to see much other than Claude Code use it.

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codexon 21 hours ago | parent [-]

There's very little incentive for people to advertise that their product was vibe coded. In fact there's many incentives to hide it. Many people hate AI and why would you invite more competition?

Bun gets a lot of hate for vibe coding.

I vibe coded to modernize one of my old hobby websites (so not even vibe coding from scratch) and I immediately got anti-AI comments, and I didn't even say I used AI.

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johnnyanmac 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Hope it keeps up, then. Social shaming is one of the last real hopes against this since government regulators are compromised.

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codexon 18 hours ago | parent [-]

There's nothing wrong with vibe coding as long as the quality is good.

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johnnyanmac 18 hours ago | parent [-]

>as long as the quality is good.

Well that's where we're seemingly at an impasse, no?

I don't even like the term "good vibecoding". The term was implied as a means to just let the computer type its own code and "go with the vibes". i.e. you have no deeper idea on how it works underneath.

Now, AI-assisted coding? It can be good. It can be a rush job. But the idea is that LLM's are in the passenger's seat, not the diver's. Much smaller chance where you have no idea where you're going since you're at the wheel.

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codexon 18 hours ago | parent [-]

The output is indistinguishable from manually written code.

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johnnyanmac 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I hope on HN of all places I don't need to explain the difference between "writing correct code" and "Software Engineering". We both know what a 20 year old million line legacy software needs.

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codexon 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Not everything needs to be amazon/google scale backed with things like sharded dbs or kubernetes.

	▲	johnnyanmac 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nope, not at all. But a million line codebase isn't close to Google scale. That's typical boring non-tech legacy code system scale. And I don't think I'm at a point where I'd want to vibe code my way though that and take responsibility for it.