Is is also clear that there are major deficits in our Constitution but that the amendment process has failed to survive a modern world.

Any of our original forefathers would recognize today's American federal government as an overreach from their indended form of government.

The only reason we aren't seeing a Boston Tea Party 2.0 over the recent string of coordinated assaults against our inalienable human rights is because surveillance capitalism is already coarsely achieving its goals of suppressing any civic participation which exists between the spectrum of ineffective political protest to the most desperate, radical action.

Some of those among us simply cannot drink this koolaid. A quote from MLK, Jr:

  I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.

Further reading https://letterfromjail.com/

▲ blackqueeriroh 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah but most of y’all wouldn’t accept the imprisonment willingly.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

Who is "most of y'all"? Sounds like a generalization to me and a poor attempt at an appeal to character in order to undermine the perspective I've shared.

Have you been to prison? I've been incarcerated before already after having my rights violated. Let's not go there. Make less assumptions.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

Incarcerated temporarily (e.g. awaiting trial or a prosecution decision), or actually convicted and sentenced to imprisonment? These two things are not the same.

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lrvick 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

No one is being convicted and doing hard time for refusing to add age verification to a Linux distro. This is just more fear mongering.

It would be a fine or a few days of jail until bail is posted, at worst. And then a media shit show where the public is certain to side with the developer who is having their rights violated to discourage this from ever happening again.

The public even got the back of weev for his bullshit arrest. Weev, one of the shittiest people to ever live. But rights are rights.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> No one is being convicted and doing hard time for refusing to add age verification to a Linux distro.

That's not the point. The point is that people who don't face a real possibility of being convicted and imprisoned are the ones who make the most noise about how they're willing to accept imprisonment (or, worse, are cheering on others to be imprisoned as some sort of Cyberpunk Martyr).

As I said elsewhere - it's easy to be an Internet Tough Guy when you (think you) have little to lose.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

This reads like your personal fantasy. It's also insulting to people who stand by these words all the way down the slippery slope. People who spend time trying to make the world safer for you and others.

Instead of positioning yourself adversarially and making unfounded and unwarranted claims about others, it would be more productive to engage in good faith and seek to lend a hand.

You've already made flat-out incorrect assumptions about me, indirect or not. Calibrate yourself.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

My "personal fantasy"? Give me a break.

You've gone off the rails. You're not the hero saving the world that you make yourself out to be. Get over yourself.

I'm done with this thread.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

You quite frankly have the conversational intelligence of a petulant child and I would not seek your legal advice in any matter if this is how you conduct yourself when discussing law with others online.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I am ok with this. Sometimes a lawyer doesn't want certain clients, either.

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iamnothere 2 days ago | parent [-]

A non-practicing lawyer, by definition, has no clients. Just to be clear.

	▲	soulofmischief a day ago \| parent [-]
		They also just went and silently changed multiple comments in order to make their replies look less edgy, petulant and unprofessional. I'm all for editing out swipes, but the lack of acknowledgement makes it clear that their last resort for turning this one around is manipulating the conversation after the fact to benefit themselves.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The public may have weev's back, but privately the majority of us disavowed him after he went full nazi in prison and doubled down on an alt-right agenda. I personally know people who signed the court petition to get him acquitted and they have rescinded support for him. That said, he shouldn't have gone to prison for that.

Anyway, the nature of a slippery slope like this one is that the punishments will get worse over time as the government further vilifies those who push against things like this and encryption backdoors.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You're right, they're not.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

So which was it?

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

I am amazed that an attorney would ask me to divulge this kind of highly personal information in a public forum when I am clearly trying to be discreet.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'm not your attorney; I don't owe you a duty of confidentiality. You're not being discreet at all; you brought up your prior incarceration, presumably in the hopes that it would help you prevail in this discussion. By so doing, you opened that door and made the issue relevant.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

That has nothing to do with your general professional respect for others and knowing how to read the room.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I've read the room. I think I'm okay.

	▲	soulofmischief a day ago \| parent [-]
		Is that why you just felt the need to edit each of your comments in an attempt to make them less petulant and more substantial?

▲ otterley 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you seriously comparing the "oppression" of a programmer who is forbidden from distributing an OS that fails to ask the user's age to the actual oppression of Black people in the United States before the Civil Rights Era? The oppression that involved lynching?

Jesus H. Christ.

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soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

You have no idea who I am, what hardships I have dealt with, and clearly don't have a complete understanding of civil liberties if you cannot make the connection between the violation of two different Constitutional rights.

Your current negativity is not welcome, if you are an attorney then please conduct yourself with more professionalism. If you want to seek to understand, great, but now you are being aggressive and negative and making a host of unfounded assumptions.

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otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'm happy to let the court of public opinion settle this one.

	▲	soulofmischief 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Is that your legal advice? Has this strategy worked for your clients before? Edit: Poor taste to edit out your original comment with no acknowledgement. That was inappropriate and you know it, which is why you've now changed your comment.