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soulofmischief 2 days ago

Who is "most of y'all"? Sounds like a generalization to me and a poor attempt at an appeal to character in order to undermine the perspective I've shared.

Have you been to prison? I've been incarcerated before already after having my rights violated. Let's not go there. Make less assumptions.

otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

Incarcerated temporarily (e.g. awaiting trial or a prosecution decision), or actually convicted and sentenced to imprisonment? These two things are not the same.

lrvick 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

No one is being convicted and doing hard time for refusing to add age verification to a Linux distro. This is just more fear mongering.

It would be a fine or a few days of jail until bail is posted, at worst. And then a media shit show where the public is certain to side with the developer who is having their rights violated to discourage this from ever happening again.

The public even got the back of weev for his bullshit arrest. Weev, one of the shittiest people to ever live. But rights are rights.

otterley 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> No one is being convicted and doing hard time for refusing to add age verification to a Linux distro.

That's not the point. The point is that people who don't face a real possibility of being convicted and imprisoned are the ones who make the most noise about how they're willing to accept imprisonment (or, worse, are cheering on others to be imprisoned as some sort of Cyberpunk Martyr).

As I said elsewhere - it's easy to be an Internet Tough Guy when you (think you) have little to lose.

soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

This reads like your personal fantasy. It's also insulting to people who stand by these words all the way down the slippery slope. People who spend time trying to make the world safer for you and others.

Instead of positioning yourself adversarially and making unfounded and unwarranted claims about others, it would be more productive to engage in good faith and seek to lend a hand.

You've already made flat-out incorrect assumptions about me, indirect or not. Calibrate yourself.

otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

My "personal fantasy"? Give me a break.

You've gone off the rails. You're not the hero saving the world that you make yourself out to be. Get over yourself.

I'm done with this thread.

soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

You quite frankly have the conversational intelligence of a petulant child and I would not seek your legal advice in any matter if this is how you conduct yourself when discussing law with others online.

otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I am ok with this. Sometimes a lawyer doesn't want certain clients, either.

iamnothere 2 days ago | parent [-]

A non-practicing lawyer, by definition, has no clients. Just to be clear.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

They also just went and silently changed multiple comments in order to make their replies look less edgy, petulant and unprofessional. I'm all for editing out swipes, but the lack of acknowledgement makes it clear that their last resort for turning this one around is manipulating the conversation after the fact to benefit themselves.

soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The public may have weev's back, but privately the majority of us disavowed him after he went full nazi in prison and doubled down on an alt-right agenda. I personally know people who signed the court petition to get him acquitted and they have rescinded support for him. That said, he shouldn't have gone to prison for that.

Anyway, the nature of a slippery slope like this one is that the punishments will get worse over time as the government further vilifies those who push against things like this and encryption backdoors.

soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You're right, they're not.

otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

So which was it?

soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

I am amazed that an attorney would ask me to divulge this kind of highly personal information in a public forum when I am clearly trying to be discreet.

otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'm not your attorney; I don't owe you a duty of confidentiality. You're not being discreet at all; you brought up your prior incarceration, presumably in the hopes that it would help you prevail in this discussion. By so doing, you opened that door and made the issue relevant.

soulofmischief 2 days ago | parent [-]

That has nothing to do with your general professional respect for others and knowing how to read the room.

otterley 2 days ago | parent [-]

I've read the room. I think I'm okay.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

Is that why you just felt the need to edit each of your comments in an attempt to make them less petulant and more substantial?