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dyauspitr 5 hours ago

Why can’t these idiots just mandate that you have to build out clean energy to power the data centers. It’s such a simple bit of legislation that they just will not do.

kodablah 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

While I would like this, my guess is it is hard to reconcile with all the other commercial ventures in the state (including datacenters) that aren't subject to such a requirement.

newsoftheday 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://www.texastribune.org/2026/08/03/texas-data-center-pr...

"Abbott is asking the Public Utility Commission of Texas and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas to ensure data center developers provide information on tax breaks they will receive; power use and generation; water use and cooling operations; efforts to reduce impacts on local communities; and ownership of the facility. Any projects that fail Abbott’s ordered “comprehensive verification and audit” should be denied connection to the grid, the governor said."

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-directs-comp...

"“Our top priority is to protect Texans’ safety and quality of life,” said Governor Abbott. “Any project that fails to comply with the requirements set forth by the PUCT and ERCOT, and by state law, must be denied connection to the Texas grid. Simply put, Texans must come first.”"

https://environmentamerica.org/texas/center/media-center/new...

"The Lone Star State generated the equivalent of 37% of its electricity from solar, wind and geothermal power in 2025"

refneb 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oil companies squash all kinds of clean energy regulation.

vendiddy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This seems like a good idea to me. I wonder what the hold up is.

kdheiwns 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To answer your question: Texas. Running on a platform of clean energy is political suicide in half of America, particularly in the south.

mminer237 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Texas leads the nation in raw renewable energy production. Solar, wind, and nuclear are hardly maligned there.

amanaplanacanal 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not in the know on Texas politics, so I'm curious. Do Texas politicians publicly support clean energy? Or do they just keep their mouths shut and let it happen? Given that the current head of the Republican party seems completely against it and how rabid some of his followers are, I'm just wondering how they thread that needle?

kdheiwns 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Texas politicians never run with clean energy as part of their platforms. They still run with oil as their main shtick. That doesn't mean that they don't let clean energy operate in their state, because they'd be silly to completely turn down money. But they can't openly announce it as a point of pride because it'll anger their base.

dyauspitr an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m pretty sure the GP knows that Texas does a lot of renewable energy. It’s just that you can’t talk about it or run on that platform as soon as you run on it people think you’re some woke liberal America destroyer.

MetaWhirledPeas 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

Pretty much. When the Texas grid was failing during ice storms they were trying to blame wind farms IIRC.

I suspect the success of renewables in Texas has more to do with the bottom line than anything else. They certainly get a lot of badmouthing from people in rural areas. And honestly this is the best possible outcome. The impact of good intentions wavers along with cultural evolution, but it's hard to stop something that just makes financial sense.

rstupek 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don't seem to realize Texas has huge number clean energy build outs and has been for quite a few years. They lead in wind generation and commercial solar generation.

kdheiwns 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I very much realize it. I know companies are doing it. But the angry responses to my comment shows that literacy is lacking in Texas because I said it's political suicide to run on it as a platform.

Ken Paxton, who is running for Senate and currently serves as attorney general, proudly announced cracking down on "solar scams": https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-...

Plus his campaign site makes no mention of supporting clean energy: https://www.kenpaxton.com/

I will repeat: it's political suicide to run on a platform of clean energy or education in Texas. That does not mean companies are not building clean energy. But politicians will not make it part of their platform during elections.

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browningstreet 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Clean energy development was doing well, was powering more than half our needs, and was creating more jobs than oil. Guess that wasn’t good enough.

Oh and it reduced our green house gas emissions. That was the catch.

(I got coal rolled just yesterday, in Tahoe. Who knew that was still a thing…)

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polski-g 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Counterpoint: you're wrong

https://texas2036.org/news-analysis/gale-force-growth-texas-...

kdheiwns 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not. Business operate in Texas. I never said that they don't. But major politicians are not making it part of their platform.

polski-g 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because the federal government made it effectively illegal to build nuclear reactors, and there are no more rivers to be dammed.

WarmWash 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People will run to point to the spate of new nuclear plans, but the point be made here is that nuclear regulation is so suffocating and costs so extreme that it's "effectively illegal" to build reactors.

amanaplanacanal 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Is it safety regulation that makes nuclear so hard, or is it just that we can't seem to do large projects of any kind any more?

WarmWash 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can tell you from second hand direct experience that the regulations are absolutely over the top, and then doubled for good measure. It almost makes aviation look like running a lemonade stand.

polski-g 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Musk can. Everyone else? Not so much.

dyauspitr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Plenty of solar and wind with batteries are available. Data centers and renewable energy are a match made in heaven. They can be in the middle of nowhere where land is cheap.

andsoitis 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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kmeisthax 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because up until recently all the big hyperscalars were already committed to buying or building renewables to meet their energy demand. Then AI happened and they all collectively realized they needed to build as many datacenters as possible to fit as many GPUs as possible to chase the bubble. All those clean energy commitments got tossed by the wayside. Hell, half the time these companies fire people just to free up cashflow to buy more GPUs!

preisschild 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly, that sounds kind of arbitrary. Why should companies that use electricity be required to also produce electricity? This is what the market is for, so other Companies can produce electricity for money and other Companies buy that electricity.

And to which companies would this apply? Only Datacenters? There are other energy intensive industries too, should this also apply to them? And what is the cutoff for that? Does every bigger 21st century company also need to be an electricity company?

It would be less arbitrary if all negative externalities would be taxed (for example, carbon tax or noise pollution tax) and maybe prioritize households on the public grid.

tancop 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

why are arbitrary rules a problem? if some company starts opening steel mills and its causing problems for the grid then the state can make all new steel mills build power generation. right now the problem is data centers so new rules are aimed at data centers.

carbon taxes dont work because all they do is make production more expensive, and businesses are always happy to pass on any extra costs to their customers. its the same with noise pollution and water use. the only way to actually stop them is direct regulation.

buying land does not give you the right to do whatever you want with it. stop worshipping property and markets and focus on real problems like limited number of business licenses, exclusivity contracts, long or lifetime post employment terms, weak competition rules and long waiting times at government offices. all of them go against the right to buy what you want, work for anyone who wants to take you or to start a business. thats the real economic freedom that is in danger today.

dyauspitr 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who cares how it works out as long as they come to the table with funded power generation for their constituent centers.