| ▲ | user43928 5 hours ago |
| On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote an article claiming Apple's reviewers confuse a nice, scientific astronomy app with astrology. The developer reviewed the article before publication. It then turned out that the developer forgot to mention that originally he did upload an astrology app for review. Gruber felt duped, and noted that it's unclear whether an updated build containing the new astronomy app was ever submitted to Apple for review: https://daringfireball.net/2026/08/retraction_app_store_reje... Now the developer seems to claim that he merely accidentally cloned that open source app when working with Claude. I am not buying it. |
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| ▲ | whstl 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > I am not buying it. Coincidentally: Just in the last few weeks, D'addario, one of largest guitar string manufacturers, posted on Instagram what is clearly an AI-song to advertise its new line of guitar strings. After being called out on it being AI, they posted a mobile-recording of the song recreated in a DAW, but it didn't even match the timing or the notes played. After being called on it AGAIN, they blamed it on LANDR and Apple Mastering "changing the notes", but those only do "AI knob tweaking", they're not generative-ai audio synthesis. LANDR itself replied. After being called on it AGAIN, they finally caved and said one of their workers used Suno without their knowledge. After someone contacted the worker, he said he was pretty clear in his communication with D'addario that he had used Suno. EDIT: The worker claimed it was "his first time using AI" and "he didn't know", but after someone did some digging in his Instagram profile, there's a few Suno songs and a lot of AI posters and avatars. This sort of ass-covering is getting crazy with AI... |
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| ▲ | tomashubelbauer 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Reminds me of politicians and public figures saying they got "hacked" after doing/posting something stupid and getting backlash for it. I guess "AI did it" is the new iteration on that. | | | |
| ▲ | imdsm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The solution is clear: yes we use AI, and we're okay with it. There's no way Claude/AI recreated another persons app exactly, with the same name and branding, without being told to do so in some way. I just don't believe it. And him not using it and calling out AI is just him covering his ass | | |
| ▲ | kibwen 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > The solution is clear: yes we use AI, and we're okay with it. Except that some portion of D'addario's customers--presumably those that actually buy their guitar strings to create music via real guitars--aren't okay with it. | | |
| ▲ | InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, I think that case is absolutely wild, because ostensibly the point of the recorded music was to showcase the strings. | |
| ▲ | whstl 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't understand why you're getting downvoted, but you're correct. That's the reason for the complaints and the company has already taken an anti-AI stance precisely for this reason. | | |
| ▲ | Forgeties79 a few seconds ago | parent [-] | | It’s not worth getting upset at one or two people downvoting. This is a large forum. There will always be some of that. Plus we have no clue why they did it, it could be valid |
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| ▲ | 1attice 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > There's no way Claude/AI recreated another persons app exactly Entropy doesn't need to be set to zero for legally significant duplication |
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| ▲ | avaer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Think about all of the cases that don't come out. Everyone hates AI, yet everyone is using AI. I refuse to believe nearly 100% of game developers aren't using AI, but how many put the tag of shame on the Steam store page? It's a very strange situation. | | |
| ▲ | WhrRTheBaboons 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | >I refuse to believe nearly 100% of game developers aren't using AI Do you refuse to believe nearly 100% of written content isn't made by AI? Was your comment? I struggle to imagine thinking that no one does things themselves, for fun. What a nihilistic view. | | |
| ▲ | dghlsakjg 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don’t believe they are saying that 100% of the entire game or content is ai, they are saying that they believe that a huge percentage of titles have used AI for at least one part of the game, however small. I can absolutely believe it, and I think it’s fine. If you have AI code up the logic for something boring but necessary (the setting screen ui, for one example. Don’t argue against this one example, that isn’t the point) it will leave a developer to work on the parts of games that actually make a difference to the experience. Frankly, it would be silly not to use ai for some things. The trouble is that if it’s a binary “used ai” flag, there is no way to distinguish a one shot Claude slop game from someone who uses AI for internationalization |
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| ▲ | teamonkey 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Steam doesn’t need a AI disclosure label for things that are not player-facing IIRC. | |
| ▲ | alexashka 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's almost as if people with no power being told to use a thing that's supposed to eliminate their jobs are worried about their jobs. How strange and inexplicable. So unlike every other time people were forced to do things they didn't want to do by the powerful. If only we had access to thousands of freely available books to help us understand. |
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| ▲ | dofm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The already embattled Fender CEO said the other day that he plans for Fender to be at the "forefront" of AI, and that covering others' songs was "analogue AI". The simple truth of the matter is that contempt for your customers is now normal. I expect this from Fender, now; they are utterly without soul. But D'Addario are really one of the most analogue companies ever and they are still family-owned; they should have understood the magnitude of this problem right at the beginning and just apologised. At least one of my three guitars will likely continue to have their PB strings, probably, because they still sound the best on my cheap Weissenborn clone. But it is very disappointing and it leaves a bad taste. Perhaps I will revisit Rotosounds (wound in a factory very near where I grew up) for my PBs. The UK also has Newtone strings so I really have no reason to continue to support D'Addario (though the low-tension Aloha set I really like for the Weissenborn copy that lets me have a 15 on the high D is always backordered). | | |
| ▲ | tpmoney 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > The already embattled Fender CEO said the other day that he plans for Fender to be at the "forefront" of AI, and that covering others' songs was "analogue AI".
>The simple truth of the matter is that contempt for your customers is now normal. I expect this from Fender, now; they are utterly without soul. I think to some degree this is going to be inevitable for a while. No matter what people think about the ethics of AI or AI use, the fact of the matter is it exists, and it is shaking up and going to shake up a lot of the world. I personally think "AI" isn't really a product anymore than "The Internet" is a product. It's infrastructure in the same way the internet is, or to quote "Halt and Catch Fire", it's "the thing that gets us to The Thing". The problem is no one really knows what The Thing looks like, so everyone is throwing anything they can think of at the wall and hoping to see what sticks. And they're dong this because they remember Sears and they remember Blockbuster. No one wants to be the next company that was positioned perfectly to integrate the new technology into their business model and missed the boat completely for short sightedness or lack of speed. "$foo but with AI" is the current generation's "$foo but on the internet", and everyone is scrambling hard to not be the next company that someone writes a "whatever happened to them" youtube video about. Incidentally, this "AI as infrastructure" view I have is also why I really think governments should be getting into the space of building and distributing training data sets and models. Not only because it could reduce the overall amount of bot scraping and traffic if everyone who wants to build could go to a known good and clean source of training data, but also because nominal usage fees could help manage the copyright concerns. I've pitched it before in more detail, but I imagine something akin to radio broadcast royalty licenses, where people whose copyrighted works are part of the government training sets are paid out "royalties" from the pool of money brought in from licensing the training sets. | | |
| ▲ | dofm 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > I think to some degree this is going to be inevitable for a while. No matter what people think about the ethics of AI or AI use, the fact of the matter is it exists, and it is shaking up and going to shake up a lot of the world. I personally think "AI" isn't really a product anymore than "The Internet" is a product. It's infrastructure in the same way the internet is, or to quote "Halt and Catch Fire", it's "the thing that gets us to The Thing". True. But the way it is approached is an exceptionally valuable yardstick for judging people's intent. There is no way that "being at the forefront of AI" is a strategy that gets Fender anywhere except towards unthinking inward investment. Even in the narrow context of NAM captures and the like, it is clumsily antithetical to their audience to say this. But writing off the one thing that actually sells guitars in the 21st century (covers bands!) as "analogue AI" is the most extraordinarily tone-deaf, rude, dismissive thing that someone who runs a musical instrument company could ever say. | | |
| ▲ | SyneRyder an hour ago | parent [-] | | > writing off the one thing that actually sells guitars in the 21st century (covers bands!) ... I'm not so sure about that. Guitar bands playing original music is huge where I am right now, shoegaze / nugaze / grunge / dreampop is where the zeitgeist is here. As a middle-aged guy who was a teen during grunge, it's heartening to see the 20 year olds now buying Jaguar guitars (and a bunch of pedals) and new bands emerging each week. Everyone is nerding out over their obscure Bandcamp purchases, and it's definitely a thing that you need to write your own original material. The occasional cover is okay, but there's a definite "ick" to being a cover band. "Analogue AI" as a description of playing a cover is harsh, but I can also see some of that label sticking. You didn't write the music or the lyrics, you're taking the credit and money for someone else's work. That seems to be some of the anti-AI attitude around here. But you're right that "the forefront of AI" is not going to appeal to that audience, at all. (Personally I'm pro-AI - not Suno stuff, but I think it will eventually find a place in the same way that synthesizers & sampling & DAWs did, all of which were regarded as cheating at the time they came out. I remember the grunge albums with "AAD" Analog / Analog / Digital printed on the CD sleeve just as Pro Tools was emerging.) | | |
| ▲ | whstl 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I dunno. Fender USA and Squier Jaguars and lots of pedals are for ppl in original bands. But the money is in Custom Shop Gibson, Fender and PRS, which are for ppl in the older generations playing mostly in 70s cover bands, or just hanging it in the wall to occasionally play Smoke on the Water. TheGearPage has become a very influential force in the industry almost like HN has. | | |
| ▲ | SyneRyder 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Okay, that's a point - there's less money in the Squier Jaguars even if they sell more of them. I know I personally can't decide on a Squier Jaguar or Vintera, when I know what I really wanted is a Fender Cobain Jaguar. There's more money in the doctors & lawyers accumulating expensive gear that they rarely ever get to play. That said - the few people I know in the "rich kid buying gear" segment are deep into AI, and wouldn't blink twice at using it to generate music for their events. Much of their audience wouldn't necessarily care. The equipment they have is more to show off "here is this expensive thing you can't afford, I have it, I don't even use it". So maybe there's lots of diverse markets and I really don't know how it will play out :) |
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| ▲ | whstl 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | In the late 2010s, the order (literally) from investors was to "hire as many devs as you can". The order now is to position the company somehow as being AI-centric or AI-powered. |
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| ▲ | rdiddly 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Jeeeeezus. It's lies all the way down. Did we ever arrive at a true statement from them or is that where they left it? The irony is how unnecessary it was. They could've just said, yeah you're right, we used AI. This is a level of lying you reserve for covering up a murder or something. Maybe they're just worried (and they're right to be worried) that it's easier to make music with AI than with their strings. | | |
| ▲ | whstl 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lie and doubling down. And a lot of employees and endorsers fighting people in the comments, and calling people names. Not a good look. |
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| ▲ | 27183 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > The worker claimed it was "his first time using AI" and "he didn't know" This is not the defense they think it is.. If your mechanic rotates your tires and improperly torques the lug bolts "it was my first time using a torque wrench" isn't excusable. It's good to experiment and learn new things. It's not good to throw your little self-study project out into the world with your employer's name behind it and present it as production worthy material. | | |
| ▲ | inigyou 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Before last year, I might've thought it was okay to throw out silly things as advertisements. | |
| ▲ | voxic11 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Do we know if it was the worker who presented it as such? Everyone has to learn and if they are learning on the job its up to their employer to ensure that the work product is reviewed or overseen by someone with adequate experience. | | |
| ▲ | whstl 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | In this case, the author exchanged messages with someone, and he indeed claimed as such, according to the screenshots. |
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| ▲ | axus 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh... |
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| ▲ | spacedcowboy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's an easy "out" for those without the self-respect to admit when they do wrong. It's like "The computer did it" from the 80's and 90's. Blame the tool for the operator usage. It's pathetic. | |
| ▲ | scotty79 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | People online post timelapses for their AI generated artwork, that are also AI generated. | | |
| ▲ | the_af 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I've been thinking about this. Almost every way we have to tell human from AI apart can be adopted and automated by AI. It's sort of a corollary of "every metric can be gamed". It's disheartening for those of us who intrinsically value human authorship. | |
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| ▲ | duped 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What bothers me about the D'Addario thing is that it never crossed the mind of that employee or the company what they're doing was wrong. Their customers are musicians. They want to hear what the strings sound like in a demo. What they did was not just dishonest, it's contrary to literally everything their customers do. Whoever did it has no sense and shouldn't be working in that business. Full stop. I say this as a D'Addario customer of 20+ years that will never buy their strings again. | | |
| ▲ | whstl an hour ago | parent [-] | | Marketing has become so disconnected from reality that such things have been normalized and trivialized. For example: since a few years now, it became extremely common for apps and games to be advertised with fake screenshots, fake gameplay, and fake interactions. AI just put all that on turbo mode. A marketing manager coming from apps/games (or other industry where this is common) joining D'addario will just push for AI music to be used because "that's how things are done". |
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| ▲ | SadErn 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It then turned out that the developer forgot to mention that originally he did upload an astrology app for review. Gruber felt duped, and noted that it's unclear whether an updated build containing the new astronomy app was ever submitted to Apple for review I think it’s shaping up like he didn’t “forget” to mention it. This looks like an intentional play for attention. It worked very well. Too well, in fact, which drew enough eyes on to the situation to start noticing the cracks in his story. A key part of the Gruber retraction article is that Apple rejected a different app named Asterly. He then copied the Dark Hours app, including the name, from someone else and tried to imply that was the app at the center of the controversy. If he had actually written his own astronomy app and swapped it into the story he may have gotten away with it. Doing the wholesale copying of someone else’s work, including the name of the project and stripping the license in the process, is what got him caught. App Store rejection stories are always popular. I see at least one post a month on Hacker News from an app developer trying to get attention because their app was rejected and it usually receives moderate social media attention. I think this person saw an opportunity to ride that anger for some personal publicity and went for it. He flew too close to the sun and got too much attention, though, so his mistruths were revealed. Now he’s trying some CYA techniques because the original ruse backfired. |
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| ▲ | qarl2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | And this, friends, is why blogs are the source of so much disinformation. They look professional, the writers seem smart, and yet they will say the dumbest shit. Shame on you Gruber. Not cool. EDIT: HEH. I guess Gruber still has a lot of fans on HN. | | |
| ▲ | dewey an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | This has nothing to do with Gruber fans or not. Your take just isn't as smart as you thought it is. Highly regarded newspapers, tv programs or books have updates / retractions all the time as even with the best fact checking it's possible that something slips through. | | |
| ▲ | qarl2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | They also have fact checkers, which would have caught this error instantly before people were deceived. EDIT: It's not nice to change your comment after it's been replied to. | | |
| ▲ | dewey an hour ago | parent [-] | | I've only changed "redactions" into "updates / retractions" as that was a typo. Please take a look at https://www.nytimes.com/international/section/corrections for a small selection of what slips through fact checking on a well established and reputable newspaper. | | |
| ▲ | qarl2 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don't doubt that massive organizations make a lot of errors. I don't think it makes your point, tho. The question is error per volume. I seriously doubt Gruber does the same amount of fact checking as a serious publication. And that was my point above. But I could be wrong - if you actually know I'd love the answer. | | |
| ▲ | dewey 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If your question is if a single person running a private blog has the same fact checking resources as a big news corporation, the answer is no but I'm not sure why you'd need me to tell you that. As mentioned in Gruber's retraction (https://daringfireball.net/2026/08/retraction_app_store_reje...) it's the first time he had to retract something in 24 years. It doesn't really make sense to compare the two in any case as the stakes and resources are very different. | | |
| ▲ | qarl2 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | No, my question is whether the per-story fact checking is equal, or much less. I suspect it's much less. Do you know otherwise? |
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| ▲ | mtlynch an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | How is this Gruber's fault? What level of verification do you expect of a tech blog discussing the experience of another tech blogger? | | |
| ▲ | qarl2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | When you spread disinformation you should bear the cost of it. Gruber has a massive audience. He should try harder. | | |
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| ▲ | SamBam 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also note that Goodier's post that kicked off Gruber's post now says it had a section about "an astronomy app I am working on that began as an astrology app," [1] but the older version of the article clearly implied that the author was baffled as to why Apple would ever think it related to Tarot cards. [2] 1. https://blog.terrygodier.com/2026/08/07/browsers-have-standa... 2. https://web.archive.org/web/20260807141155/https://blog.terr... |
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| ▲ | sellmesoap 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe our attention is being farmed? I have a friend who does astrology readings for a living and was curious why the app store doesn't allow astrology apps, a quick search revealed astrology apps exist on the app store so that's a red herring. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | In app categories that bring a lot of low-effort submissions and clones, Apple requires new submissions to bring something new to the table. Before these requirements the app store was filling up with thousands of flashlight apps, todo lists, and other simple apps that people would build (or clone) to get something into the app store. | |
| ▲ | runtime_terror 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If you read the related articles you'd see the App Store has decided there are enough of these types of apps and they don't accept any more unless they're noticeably different | |
| ▲ | arsan87 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They simply do not allow new astrology apps. They consider the market segment saturated. | | |
| ▲ | sellmesoap 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Oh but mine will be tron/blade runner themed, the market needs more diversity, the insensative clauds! |
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| ▲ | mortenjorck 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| OP or dang should change the link to the DF retraction. While the app’s author has apparently produced some quality products, this puts a big asterisk next to that reputation. |
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| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's interesting. I had originally posted a "this dude is classy" comment, and may repost, but I'd like to find out more, beforehand. Are there any links to this stuff that you can share? [UPDATED] Ah. I see this post has it[0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49231394 |
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| ▲ | user43928 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I did not look into the details myself, but here are the links to the previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166 | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I know that not everyone is thrilled with Gruber, but I think this is classy (from his article): > To the best of my recollection, this is the first post I’ve retracted in the 24 years I’ve been writing Daring Fireball. I hope it’s the last. I was misled, both overtly and through omissions, in several ways, but what I publish is my responsibility, and I apologize for the error. | | |
| ▲ | sersi 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Gruner is a true fan and tends to be overly positive about Apple but I don't doubt his integrity for a second. In cases when his reporting is overly favorable to Apple in my eyes, I do believe that he truly believes what he says. | | |
| ▲ | whstl 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | It was interesting that his first retraction was due to a post being critical of Apple. Not that there hasn't been other critical posts, but he's very positive about the brand. | | |
| ▲ | maratc 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Gruber himself has written a number of posts critical of Apple, some of them scathingly so. | | |
| ▲ | simonw 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, any time I see someone accuse Gruber of being universally positive about Apple I think they can't have been reading his work very often. Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_th... Apple subsequently stopped providing Apple execs for his annual live podcast recording at WWDC. They don't confirm it was because of that piece (unsurprisingly) but it seems very likely it was. | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Anyone that has been in the Apple ecosystem, for any length of time, has been insanely pissed off at them -usually, multiple times. They are a pretty arrogant megacorp, and tend to make decisions that primarily benefit themselves. But I generally have a positive relationship with them. |
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| ▲ | kstrauser 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I fully agree. That’s how you own a mistake. |
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| ▲ | natch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’ve noticed that when a developer cries foul over an Apple App Store rejection, it often seems to be a red flag that there is something fishy about that developer. Gruber, not to his credit, often does not give Apple the benefit of the doubt on these matters. imho he bears some responsibility if he feels duped. |
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| ▲ | VladVladikoff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >The original is here: https://darkhours.app Ooof that is a terrible dark mode theme. |
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| ▲ | tremon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps That's curious. What legitimate-sounding reason could Apple have to reject astrology on their platform? Isn't this exactly the kind of discrimination against fields of endeavour that would make a slam-dunk case for any antitrust enforcement? |
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| ▲ | user43928 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | A few years ago there were horoscope apps with a 3-day free trial, then pay per week subscriptions, that had tens of thousands of suspicious 5 star reviews. Some of them even made it into the top 20 grossing apps on the store. All the reviews with text would complain about accidentally subscribing. Apple was earning a 30% commission on those subscriptions. | |
| ▲ | throwaway219450 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Only new submissions seem to be banned because Apple says there are too many. Clearly there are loads if you search the App Store. Gruber quotes and I re-quote: > Certain kinds of apps, such as dating, flashlight, sound effects, wallpaper, simple timers, and fortune telling, are well established on the App Store and we will not accept new submissions unless they offer a meaningfully different or improved experience. We may remove these apps from the App Store going forward if they are not updated, improved, or do not attract customers. Other kinds of apps, such as drinking games, Kama Sutra, fart, and burp apps, are mediocre, low-quality, or low-effort and do not add value to the App Store. | |
| ▲ | avazhi 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The same reason apple could reasonably block people from selling anything with an easily falsifiable claim: misleading consumers is bad, and apps that are misleading aren’t allowed. That already exists. Telling people you can tell them their future based on the stars is demonstrably misleading lol. | |
| ▲ | zymhan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Isn't this exactly the kind of discrimination against fields of endeavour that would make a slam-dunk case for any antitrust enforcement? No. | |
| ▲ | dd8601fn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They don’t prohibit them. There are categories of app that already have 100 trillion low effort copy-paste slop apps. In those categories, Apple applies a more stringent “must demonstrate some real differentiation” criteria. They also prune those categories of existing apps more aggressively. It’s fair to wonder what counts, and how uniformly they apply it, but the motivation is not, “no astrology apps.” This guy pumped out slop for a high-slop category. It got rejected. That’s where it started. All the bullshit and lies from everyone snowballed from that. | |
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| ▲ | budsniffer952 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| And blames it on "AI usage". |
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| ▲ | frenchtoast8 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I’m struggling to see how this wasn’t intentional by Godier, but I can’t understand what he was hoping to get out of it. Surely the truth would have come out eventually. Was one day of fame worth it? |
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| ▲ | quietsegfault 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We are personally responsible for what our agents do. I don’t know why someone thinks “oops Claude did it” is a valid excuse. |
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| ▲ | bossyTeacher 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| afaik apple store doesn't prohibit astrology apps. You just can't have cookie cutter astrology apps. I believe dating apps have the same rule. |
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| ▲ | arjie 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh I recall this story now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49214863 I, too, feel entirely duped. What the heck dude. Uploading an astrology app that later pivoted to astronomy and having that be rejected for astrology is a way different problem from just having the latter rejected for astrology. Thanks for drawing the chain. Infuriating. |
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| ▲ | the_af 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | If I understand the story correctly, it's even worse than "pivoted to astronomy". He used Claude to "accidentally" (doubtful) copy an existing astronomy app, bugs and all. It's like a pile of dishonesty upon dishonesty. |
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| ▲ | yzydserd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Grubby. |
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| ▲ | lern_too_spel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| And Gruber, being Gruber, says that this guy's RSS reader is so good that it would prevent people from switching to Android. Sure. |
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| ▲ | dewey 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > David Pierce, at The Verge, put it on a very short list of iOS-exclusive indie apps that keep him from switching to Android. You are misattributing a quote. | | |
| ▲ | lern_too_spel 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That quote that you posted is from Gruber. Gruber chose to include that in his blog post to say that this app is so good that it keeps people, including Pierce, from switching to Android. I was obviously fully aware that he paraphrased somebody else to include as evidence to support his claim. Pierce, on the other hand, was speaking only for himself. | | |
| ▲ | dewey 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Choosing to include a properly attributed quote in a blog post is very different to saying something yourself. | | |
| ▲ | lern_too_spel 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Once more, Gruber is the one who claimed that the app kept people from switching to Android by paraphrasing (not quoting) Pierce. Pierce spoke only for himself. You are trying to pick a nit that doesn't exist. |
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