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neucoas 39 minutes ago

> now residents want to complain about it years later because data centers are this year's culture war hot topic

I hope one day Amazon or any AI company installs a data center next to your home. Then you will finally understand

derektank 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The data center in question is being installed next to a Walmart supercenter and highway 101. It’s being built on land zoned for industrial use. It’s not next to anybody’s home.

fzeroracer 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is false and easily provable by simply looking at the location on the map [1]. It's very clear that it's being built near housing and schooling. Especially a big deal as there's been more recent cases of exceedingly loud data centers carrying noise quite a distance.

[1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/D5PDUa62B5weCcqZ7

mikestew 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The only houses I see are across a busy highway (101). The location is in an industrial park with nothing behind it. You’re not wrong, for large values of “near”, but not making a great case.

fzeroracer 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's close enough when you consider that the noise from a poorly built data center (ie: most of the ones being stood up rapidly in the current AI craze) can carry noise upwards of a mile plus depending on a bunch of different factors. So a lot of homes in that area would potentially be within the blast radius of data center noise, especially at night.

kccqzy 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If noise is the concern then regulate noise. Don’t restrict data centers.

If someone’s house has a barking dog that won’t stop barking, you aren’t going to say building houses are restricted. Instead you restrict barking dogs, which is what cities do.

sokoloff 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It looks to me like it’s several hundreds of meters away from housing, with a 6-lane divided and controlled-access highway between the housing and the site.

derektank 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

You’re right that it does appear to be near a school (I don’t think anything that contradicts anything else I said). I think the health effects of siting a school right on a major highway are much more serious than being near a data center.

fragmede 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

So you saw a video of the unholy shrieking of a gas turbine and concluded that all data centers are like that?

mindslight 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Before an edit, you had made an analogy to whether it makes sense to judge individuals' behavior the same way that datacenters are getting stereotyped. If there was no recourse through the legal system, then maybe?

The problem here is that the "justice" system is all too happy to come down on individuals, while giving corpos a pass. If you or I buy a loud car stereo, we can get a ticket for making too much noise. Cities can even pass new noise ordinances or new methods of measurement that are post facto of our purchase, and we still have to conform to them! But when a corpo does something similar, the kid gloves go on and their ongoing behavior (eg noise pollution) gets "grandfathered", and there is nothing that anybody can do. Restore the rule of law - meaning equal protection under it rather than one-sided laws written by corpos - to restore the public's trust. Only then will it make sense to not be anti-datacenter by default.