Unfortunately Americans remain too comfortable to bother with any serious push back. The destruction of democratic traditions in America will continue and the president will keep using the office to legitimise his scams.

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dgellow 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Even worse, way too many people are still actively supporting this. That can even been seen in the HN commenting crowd

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classified 17 hours ago | parent [-]

> the HN commenting crowd

That set also contains elements who will swear that LLMs are conscious, so it does not mean as much as we might want it to.

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Mielin 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I dont support Trump, but the conscious part is closer to me.

Why would you think LLMs are not conscious? Maybe a link to an article that is aligned with your views? That would help me understand your viewpoint.

Are dogs conscious? Maybe not, or a bit so. LLMs are more conscious than dogs.

LLM are deficient in certain memory aspect - particularly a gap between the generation cycle and the context window. So they seem forgetful. But people with memory loss or damaged hypocampus are still conscious. LLMs are dumb in certain aspects, do weird errors, but we still agree that dumb people with weird errors are conscious.

Theory wise thinking is likely substrate independent. Unless you think that biological tissue holds some life force that allows to transend comoutation limitations somehow.

Thats probably not what you wanted to read, Im aorry. Just really curious in how do you reconcile all of this.

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dgellow 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fair. Though that’s likely a reflection of the general population

	▲	jfengel 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Or at least, the tech-bro subset of the general population. It's possible that they're disproportionately vocal on HN, but I think overall it's a reasonably accurate presentation of that (narrow but powerful) demographic.

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JKCalhoun 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Unfortunately Americans remain too comfortable…"

I suspect this too will change.

We may get to a point where we'll refer to the Great Depression as Great Depression I.

We'll see change then. It happened last time.