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zmmmmm an hour ago

I read up recently on the history of the fall of the roman empire and it was fascinating how eerily similar it was to the current state of the US. Overwhelmed by corruption and wars they make stupider and stupider decisions on ever larger scales, ever more frequently. And the population grows ever more cynical, eventually opting for authoritarianism before eventually the center can't hold any more and it all collapses in on itself.

Funnily enough, the most striking part was the pure stupidity of a lot of it - seems so strange, but every day it seems I hear another really stupid story and think ... huh, maybe it really can be like that.

whack 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Never attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to self-interest. It sure looks stupid when you look at America or the Roman Empire as a whole. But when you look at the specific individuals doing these "stupid" things, and the individuals enabling them, it is perfectly aligned with their own best interests.

segmondy 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

and your point?

DrDeadCrash 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

perhaps their point is 'cui bono'

wookmaster 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It seems like checks and balances are collapsing so the corruption gets worse, just selling out nature, our health more and more for personal gain until something breaks.

bakies 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Older generation has lead poisoning from all the leaded gasoline burned

sinfulprogeny 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_lead_poisoning_theory

Funny you should say that

delecti 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The concerning part is that peak lead exposure was with Gen X. We're still being led by boomers and silent generation. So any contribution from lead stands to get worse before it gets better.

runarberg 22 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I hate this theory. It is extremely condescending, offers nothing, has no proof, but sounds plausible enough that many people believe it.

It is much more likely that our economic system rewards hostile behavior and that money has outsized influence in politics and a criminal justice system which lets rich people get away with crimes. That money correlates more with hostile behavior then lead, Instead of blaming lead, blame capitalism.

Just think about all the people who put lead in the gasoline in the first place, did they go to prison for their crimes, or did they make a bunch of money and retire in luxury.

graceful6800 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's spelled lead, and it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to cause brain damage. There is no safe level of lead exposure, it causes neurological damage at any level of exposure and it stays in your body permanently.

You're wrong on every count and simply spreading disinformation. Please don't do that.

runarberg 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

I never claimed lead does not cause damage, it does. I dispute it is the primary fault in bad politics, and I offered an alternative theory.

pennomi 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US sure seems to be speedrunning the collapse though.

pydry 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

The collapse did take about 1,000 years.

AnonymousPlanet 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where did you read up on it? Any good sources you can recommend?

gadders 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Uncontrolled borders and mass immigration?