Are you effectively building a separate renderer outside of Webkit?

Just curious on your thoughts about how Webkit was architected then, I guess it's not a modular system where you can separate out things like "Localstorage" support?

any plans to support webdriver bidi for automation? (i'd be happy to help!)

[edit: for others reading who don't usually nerd out on browser automation protocols: webdriver bidi is the new-ish w3c cross-browser standard inspired by CDP - the main magic was the upgrade to websockets and also to standardize the capture of network-level traffic. there are still feature gaps between CDP and BiDi (in spec and implementation), but long term, i believe we should bet on web standards, not proprietary protocols controlled by one company.

(disclosure: i started the selenium and appium projects.)]

No it doesn't and it's simply useless. They have been trying to enable publishers to charge scrapers so that's why they're pushing this path hard.

> I’ve heard executive leaders tout that “people use agents to buy things for them” but I haven’t actually seen that.

My wife really dislikes building up the shopping cart for our weekly grocery delivery, so I built an agent... thing with earendil's npm libs. It takes the menu my wife has decided on, confers with her about the ingredients (if it hasn't seen a recipe before), and then uses Chrome's devtools protocol to head to Walmart and add everything to the shopping cart.

It works fairly well and uses the local models I have running on my Mac Studio.

Web scraping is the age old pre-LLM way to implement scratch-your-own-itch automations on the web. Anything you do manually with a web browser. Also used in corporate settings to interface with bad "enterprise" software, it's called RPA there. This kind of thing is the logical AI progression of those.

tldr; to workaround the lack (or shortcomings) of public m2m APIs in web apps

It’s usually incidental. Costco’s receipts aren’t easy to get. You go to a particular page listing them all and then for each date you click view receipt and look for the thing you want. You can’t really search because the thing will be labeled SHWR103 or something.

I didn’t “use an agent to find a receipt” in the sense that I purpose built one. I just asked my existing agent that I talk to on telegram by photographing the thing I wanted to know if we could return and while I changed the baby it chugged along and by the time we were ready to go it could tell me whether we did buy it at Costco and when so I know if I can return it.

I often use it to browse sites to get web/app design inspiration, then make moodboards based off it and send it to me. saves me a lot of manual browsing time

I would use them to solve captchas if that was a thing.

i've been tempted to use an agent to help me find non-horrible seats to see the 70mm imax version of the odyssey. but that's also the kind of thing that is heavily guarded by anti-bot detectors.

From the final notes section of their announcement blog post:

> One last thing: we're going to open source Kitesurf once we're ready — hopefully soon. Our goal is to let any customer deploy their own version of Kitesurf on their own accounts, if they want to.