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oblio an hour ago

Google will be considered "the new IBM" in 20 years.

impulser_ 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

People have been saying that for over a decade now, and their business is still going.

jrflo 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Their entire business is predicated on search dominance, which is now on much shakier footing. Agreed that those comments were ridiculous pre-ChatGPT, but now they have a genuine challenger.

baron816 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This take only makes sense if you don’t know what people use Google search for. If you’re looking for your local Ford dealership, or to book a Carnival cruise, or need a disability lawyer, or to refinance your credit card debt, you’re searching for an ad. You’re not using Chat-GPT for that. You’re asking Chat-GPT about a research project. It’s stealing away all the hard to monetize searches and leaving the incredibly lucrative searches.

Your narrative depressed Google’s stock price for years, and bears finally gave up since they kept coming out with huge earnings beats.

darkoob12 a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

I actually use Claude for finding stuff and recommendations. like "Find me a decent shoe with blah blah conditions" this query now goes to LLM Chat instead of google search. I use google search to find the url of something that i know exists like find the website of a company or finding address of a store.

quietbritishjim 4 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

People 100% are asking ChatGPT for all those things.

brokencode 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s over half of their business, but they do have some diversification with YouTube, Play Store, and cloud services.

Some of their newer efforts like Waymo and AI hosting for Apple could turn into large businesses to make up for any lost search revenue.

They also have significant costs to maintain their search revenue, such as $20B a year to Apple alone to make Google the default search engine in Safari.

If search becomes less lucrative, they would presumably pay less for such deals.

So yeah, definitely a time of disruption for Google and they need to keep moving fast on many fronts, but they are still well positioned in multiple markets to be successful.

paperwallet 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I disagree

A model serves a different purpose from a web crawler.

I'd prefer to be able to find source material over steering a model I have no control over while managing hallucinated outputs without the ability to fact check.

Just because it sourced some materials using RAG doesn't make its outputs valid, accurate, or factual.

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optimalsolver 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So is IBM.

Eldt 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn't IBM still going?