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| ▲ | lelanthran 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > Please don't use human slurs for computer programs you don't like. Good point. We should use different slurs for machines than the ones we use for humans :-) | |
| ▲ | stalfosknight 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why are we defending the feelings of chatbots? Does the word clanker upset you too? | | |
| ▲ | s-daveb 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | It’s not about defending the feelings of chat bots but it does normalize name-calling for the person who is using the word clanker. It’s not good for your mental health. | |
| ▲ | wizzwizz4 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It mildly upsets me, because I think the impulse to denigrate that which we oppose is a harmful one which, if cultivated, we can all too readily turn on people who don't deserve it. But it's not a real slur for real people. (Note that in Star Wars, where many people got this slur from, droids are – or at least, have the potential to be – people, albeit they are usually enslaved, and subject to arbitrary mind wipes.) However, I couldn't care less about the feelings of chatbots. What I do care about is the feelings of the people to whom the slurs were originally directed, and (generally) the kind of culture that this creates. The use of slurs is a symptom, rather than a cause, but complaining about slurs does get people asking the kinds of questions you're asking, which is a positive. I would not have said anything if the word "clanker", alone, had been used. But if you look at GP's other comments, I think you'll see evidence to support my musings about the kind of attitude that the practice of slur use cultivates. | | |
| ▲ | daun_gee 2 days ago | parent [-] | | "Retard" is a forbidden curse (read: slur) that holds great power in the English language. I understand the risks of using this sort of language, and yet still I have determined that it is prudent to use the harshest rhetorical weapons that we have available to resist the large AI firms. "Clanker" much less potent, much less powerful. I want an anti-AI slogan that stays in people's minds after they leave this comments section, and I think "AI is for retards" is that slogan. | | |
| ▲ | wizzwizz4 2 days ago | parent [-] | | The literal meaning of the word is "delayed", which seems less descriptive than the words you rejected in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49183728. Do you understand why this word is "forbidden"? What's the advantage over a more vulgar word like "fuckwit"? | | |
| ▲ | daun_gee 2 days ago | parent [-] | | [dead] | | |
| ▲ | wizzwizz4 2 days ago | parent [-] | | So, you're trying to upset (former) bullying victims, while having the people you're trying to criticise dismiss you as a mere bully? I don't see how this is an effective strategy. > “That movie was so developmentally disabled”. Nobody says this, and it's been 14 years since this article was published. The euphemism treadmill continues up until people stop treating the attribute as slur-worthy – which was the primary goal of this campaign. > For that reason I think these comments are going to stick with people once they leave this comments section. No, this is going to stick with me, because it's an attitude that I find exceptionally annoying: constantly repeating "I have a noble cause, therefore I am in the right", when you've already said it once. I'm reasonably confident I'm going to forget the details of your message by the end of the week, because you are far from the only edgelord on the internet, and you all go into my mental bucket of "not worth listening to", but I will remember that you were obnoxious about whatever it is you were saying. | | |
| ▲ | wizzwizz4 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Update: no part of this stuck with me after all, not even the part I found annoying. |
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| ▲ | daun_gee 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] | | |
| ▲ | lukebitts 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | If it’s so necessary make sure to use your real account next time | | |
| ▲ | daun_gee 2 days ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | 8note 2 days ago | parent [-] | | you can be critical without being abraisive or demeaning about it. a professional opinion includes some professionalism | | |
| ▲ | inigyou 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Are we worried about offending the machine? | | |
| ▲ | wizzwizz4 2 days ago | parent [-] | | No, we're worried about contributing to a hostile environment for people who have nothing to do with this complaint. To illustrate: replace the slur with a racial or sexist one, and see how it reads. If you want to insult people, take the time to come up with a relevant insult: don't just fire your gun into the air. | | |
| ▲ | inigyou 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | If someone said ChatGPT was a whiny bitch, I'd think them a bit odd, but I wouldn't start complaining about sexism. | |
| ▲ | daun_gee 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I didn't say anything racist or sexist. I'm mocking stupid people who are sucking up all the air in the room. Fuck these AI retards. | | |
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| ▲ | daun_gee 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | hhh 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | it’s not necessary, you can just say you don’t like it. not everything has to be vulgar | | |
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