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api 2 hours ago

Submit this for an IgNobel.

It’s also funny cause it’s mocking this BS in such a good natured wonderfully overdone way. Guy in my college house who got laid the most was on the shorter side, poor, and kind of acted effeminate at times to the point that people mistook him for gay. Never saw his wing wong so maybe it was like ten inches but I doubt it. He was also kind and not a jerk and did not act like an “alpha male.”

What was he? Fun, hilarious, and confident.

I got zero until I decided to stop pretending not to be a weird nerd and just chat about stuff I was into, which at the time was evolutionary information theory and hacking. Guess what? Leading with who you are is confident.

It’s attractive in women too, at least for me.

The incel stuff is just men catching up with women when it comes to dumb anxieties about looking right according to arbitrary external standards.

noir_lord 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Guess what? Leading with who you are is confident.

That was always my attitude, why hide who you are in the first place, I'm a computer geek who likes playing Chess,Cycling and heavy metal music - I put that on my dating profile and it didn't hurt me in the slightest.

RajT88 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am pretty sure this 3 6's rule was a social media clickbaity phenomenon anyways. There are people this shallow and silly, but they are actually rare.

sublinear 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To be fair, "confidence" and knowing "who you are" in college is largely an illusion.

I would argue that "success" at that age is more a matter of being interesting and entertaining in a nonthreatening way.

It comes across as insincere to the majority of women who are also getting ignored by the majority of men at that age. That's what you get when you optimize for cheap and easy attraction instead of long term relationship appeal. A lot of younger people don't know the difference.

exhumet an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yeah, its almost like treating women not like a piece of meat that youre only talking with to try and fuck goes a long way lol (not coming at you, just in general)

exactly what you said, just being you, listening and being engaging, remembering things, and like you said, be confident. Which doesnt mean being a masculine hyper alpha. it means that you are comfortable with yourself which is something that comes off so so well. hell ive literally had a girl on my couch practically on top of me listening to me ramble about the tragedy of char aznable and amuro ray AND SHE ASKED FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS lol

ive been labeled an "oblivious flirt" i just like being a little playful shithead and it comes off great apparently. and i think its because ill openly flirt and give but i dont take anything they give back in an cockhungry opportunistic way. confidence and knowing when to make your exit go a longgggggg way. im always called very sweet but my favorite thing is getting under someones skin just a bit to throw them off. denying a girl who is used to men bending to their will is extremelllyyyyyy satisfying lol

tldr: ive got a hugeeeeee schlong brahhhh cuz thats all you need to be an alphaaaa

rhrhfjfjjr44 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh women are actually most attracted to short effeminate men because of that one guy you knew in college? Somebody should tell them.

nixon_why69 an hour ago | parent [-]

Exact opposite of the point they made, brother. Worth a reread and think depending on your headspace.

alberto467 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Guys let’s not pretend that him being taller and more stereotypically handsome would’ve hurt his “achievements”.

It would’ve of course helped.

The fact that height and stereotypical beauty standards are not the only things that matter does not change that on average they have a significant positive impact.

rhrhfjfjjr44 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Might be you who needs to reread...

nixon_why69 an hour ago | parent [-]

Since I'm feeling generous, the words you missed are "fun and confident". One could expand to "comfortable and happy in one's skin", very much not a synonym for cockiness which is prickly and challenging. You can't fake it, it comes and goes for all of us.

OPs friend got laid a lot despite "traditional" defects because of wholesome, fun confidence.

rhrhfjfjjr44 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

And you don't think the tall, rich, well-endowed man is more likely to be a little more confident than the short, poor micro-penised man?

Put "I'm fun and confident" in your dating profile and I'll put "6'4"" and we'll see how that pans out. You won't be having much fun and your confidence will be shot.

nixon_why69 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

BEING fun and confident matters. Saying you are is, well, not fun or confident.

A friend of mine, well below 6 feet, once had a dating profile where he went into a weird tangent about loving mac and cheese. A weird, sexual and hilarious tangent, where he started arguing with you, the reader, about why are we still talking about this? I said I never had sex with a bowl of mac and cheese! It was classic and he got a ton of dates from it.

Admittedly online dating sucks and my friend there could have been a comedy writer in another life. It's hard to stand out. But in person? It doesn't matter how many dates your profile did or didn't get, you must be fun and comfortable in your own skin, why spend time with someone who isn't both of those things?

rhrhfjfjjr44 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

Rich and handsome 6'4" men have no problem standing out. This is the point. Online dating does not suck for them.

Your goofy friend might get lots of updoots on reddit but if he's short and broke it would be <1% of women who don't immediately reject him. They will never even see his mac and cheese bio. Online dating would be a waste of time for him at best; at worst, kiss goodbye to this delusional confidence once the crushing reality manifests.

nixon_why69 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's what I'm trying to help you understand. My goofy friend was plowing a trail of pussy through NYC at that time with his fun and confident antics. Below 6 feet and definitely not rich back then. He's doing well now, and married, but hasn't grown any inches.

There's a point past this where racking up a number is hollow and meaningless but that's beside the point right now. The thing I'm trying to tell you is that you can have a better and more positive personality even if you can't grow 6 inches. And that better personality is not some incel shit or "negging" or whatever.

pavlov 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> "men catching up with women when it comes to dumb anxieties"

It's weird to watch all those fans of patriarchy step right into their own trap. Didn't they get the memo that this stuff was set up to control women? Or is it just a reflection of how these self-proclaimed "alphas" secretly see their own proper place as subjugated by men higher up in the hierarchy?

api an hour ago | parent [-]

It’s all very obvious hysteria that parodies itself loudly.

It’s also a big con. Andrew Tate might be an abuser of women but his big marks are men. Look at how much money he makes selling that BS to insecure guys. That was his whole schtick as he rose to fame.

I suspect the manosphere stuff is designed to make men repellent to women to keep them hooked on it. If you find a girlfriend you might not pay $25K to attend an alpha male boot camp to have an idiot yell at you.

nixon_why69 an hour ago | parent [-]

It doesn't have to be designed, can be an emergent survival property. Wholesome and helpful dating advice just never builds a cult of loners.