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Nextgrid 3 hours ago

Is there anything they're doing that can't be replicated by hypervisor/management software on commodity x86 servers? Seems like their "secret sauce" is a software stack that "just works" more than any actual special feature of the hardware.

I feel like Broadcom with its VMWare acquisition could easily take these guys out if they wanted to (or for that matter, any OEM that has a line of servers + network & storage hardware). They don't, most likely because there isn't actually enough profit to be made there (Oxide having to raise money multiple times might be a hint).

sunshowers an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's not actually secret — it's open source! We talk openly about our architecture.

Bryan has a good take on the incentive structures holding back commodity hardware vendors: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/O8GSWKpK79s

throw0101d an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Is there anything they're doing that can't be replicated by hypervisor/management software on commodity x86 servers?

It was technically possible with (e.g.) OpenStack for years (decades?) before Oxide ever existing, and yet even with such a solution being around, some folks still went with Oxide. (Or, depending on the scale you want to talk about: Proxmox, XCP-ng.)

wmf 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What can't be replicated is a culture of simplicity, quality, and security. I've seen this firsthand working at IBM.

steveklabnik an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

(Former oxide)

Yes, custom hardware is a significant part of Oxide. You have to build your own to do that stuff, and that’s why they did. I alluded to some of the things upthread.

I found out about this round from this thread, just like everybody else, but

> Oxide having to raise money multiple times might be a hint

That’s not the only reason to raise a round, by far, especially when you, you know, are building custom hardware. It isn’t a SaaS business.

EDIT: here’s another commentor with an example of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49176704

joshuamorton 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Is there anything they're doing that can't be replicated by hypervisor/management software on commodity x86 servers? Seems like their "secret sauce" is a software stack that "just works" more than any actual special feature of the hardware.

There's a reason Apple is consistently one of the top 5 most valuable companies. It isn't because their hardware does anything that can't be done on "commodity" hardware, its that they built a software stack that "just works" and part of that was tight coupling to the hardware.

XorNot 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

Which only matters to consumers. Businesses at scale have teams doing this stuff and costs matter.

I've written on this before but Oxide are sitting in very narrow market segment in terms of value and I can't see how it's viable.

ahl a minute ago | parent [-]

The market is anyone who wants a private cloud but isn’t as big as an Amazon or Google who could build it themselves. Seems like a big enough TAM.

FireBeyond 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Broadcom with its VMWare acquisition could easily take these guys out if they wanted to.

Depends on what you mean by that. Broadcom cremated a lot of VMware's goodwill in the market.