| ▲ | Oras a day ago |
| > The only potential issue with immediate mode is performance, since we need to re-render the entire UI on every state change. How this made it to HN front page? |
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| ▲ | pedro_movai a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think the author is saying a potential issue of a vanilla implementation of immediate mode. The following text explains that there is already many optimizations for this |
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| ▲ | blenderob a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > I think the author is saying a potential issue of a vanilla implementation of immediate mode. And you (pedro_movai) == the author? So you are saying that potential issue? Sorry, technically you are right that the author is saying that but I got confused with you referring to yourself in third person. Nothing wrong with it. Just want to confirm if you're the author. | | | |
| ▲ | inigyou a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Nothing in HTML is immediate mode. Any framework with a DOM is retained mode, by definition. | | |
| ▲ | pedro_movai a day ago | parent [-] | | But the api is trying to simulate immediate mode using DOM | | |
| ▲ | inigyou a day ago | parent [-] | | That's called an "abomination". The advantage of immediate mode is not storing a DOM. If you write immediate-mode code but it stores a DOM anyway then it's the worst of both worlds. | | |
| ▲ | sroerick a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Isn't that literally React? I find it so immeasurably funny that in his effort to simplify code and invent immediate mode UI, Casey Muratori accidentally invented React | |
| ▲ | Warwolt a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | How would you do layouting without a tree structure in place? Not really sure what you're getting at here | | |
| ▲ | inigyou a day ago | parent [-] | | You have discovered one advantage of retained-mode designs. |
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| ▲ | mollerhoj a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | "I think the author is saying"
- Wait, are you not the author? This seems dishonest. |
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| ▲ | gulugawa a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I think the high quality of the author's website is more relevant than theoretical concerns about performance. Loading performance on the s website is quite good, and it appears to be using the JS library described in the blog post. I also saw that pages were loading around 60kb or JavaScript or less. Also, from looking at the author's GitHub profile, it appears that they do not make significant use of LLMs and actually took the effort to write the code by themselves. |