>Always found it odd that Apple don't let you have a second separate business profile to switch your phone to for work - especially when you don't necessarily want to be bringing browser history/personal apps into your workplace or wifi.

I'm guessing it's the same reason they don't offer multiple accounts on iPad. They would rather you bought more devices.

however, it is quite neat for Apple if employees are "voluntarily" giving up their privacy by merging their accounts and indirectly allowing Apple to monitor their whole digital identity.

Apple is then "just" monitoring the corporate user account for security reasons, it was the employee who decided to use the same account for private purposes...

According to more than a dozen former Apple employees, apparently not Apple though... despite the fact that they make iPhones.

You can have multiple users on a single device.

https://source.android.com/docs/devices/admin/multi-user

Either with a single local account that accesses multiple Google accounts, or multiple local accounts. Though this is device specific, it may be disabled by your manufacturer/provider.

As mentioned elsewhere though, an enrolled phone is an enrolled phone so corporate wiping will wipe the entire phone and not just the profile.

It's been a while, but at a previous job (maybe 8 years ago) I was responsible for managing mobile devices and using Blackberry's MDM suite, you could have segregation of personal and private data, where you couldn't move data from one "container" to the other, including clipboard data.

I'm out of the loop now, though.

Android did have better support at the time, but if I remember correctly, devices that had a work managed profile on them could still be completely wiped, including the personal/private container.

A bit of a pain, but I've always preferred (where possible) to have separate work and personal devices.

Well, aint no way I'm working with a realtor over green bubbles, and they probably have two phones.

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I suppose this is harder when the company hosts everything in icloud though...

This is simply bad hygene. It's such a basic thing that I can't even figure out how to back up far enough to start to explain why one should keep work and personal life seperate. I guess if I'd ever had kids I would have had to figure this out when they were like 5 or 6, and then I'd know how to explain what should be explained to every 5 or 6 year old.

If you are a decision maker, you might find your personal stuff subject to a subpoena for any number of reasons. Antitrust, insider trading, harassment suits, all sorts of legal fishing expeditions. Its convenient to be able to just give them the corporate burner, and get another. I know a few people who had to go through this with their personal phones and this is a horrible experience. For once, you lose your phone there and then and are explicitly forbidden for tampering with anything replicated to iCloud.

A friend of mine is a svp of something something and his corp was sued by antitrust regulators. One day police is at his doorstep - not even a legal letter - and they took his phone then and there. Super disruptive, considering one usually has a lot of MFA tied to the phone.

You aren't gaining or losing much - but they are gaining a huge risk. Just as you above show by being able to easily move files to any USB drive or Google Drive

> Did employees get official approval to create secondary accounts?

Yeah, at orientation they told us it was an option. I don't recall more than a couple of people taking advantage - if you go to work for Meta you've probably made your peace with it already.

> “Do you think when Disney manages their Facebook page that Disney marketing execs have to use their personal Facebook accounts?”

There are various business portal things that separate a business page from just one user owning them, but you still login to a business page you manage via your personal account, regardless of size of business

Correct, because other companies are not in a position to certify the security of iCloud meeting their own standards. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Apple trusts Apple more than other people trust Apple.

Same here