| ▲ | DDoS against Norwegian government IT infrastructure – status(status.digdir.no) |
| 95 points by e12e a day ago | 79 comments |
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| ▲ | just_some_user a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| The actual interesting part about such an attack is not that something is down, but rather why someone would run it.
A lot of DDoS originates from script kiddies, but such attacks are usually very short lived as attacks are expensive.
So which actor would actually benefit from downing the Norwegian government? |
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| ▲ | sixtyj 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It is not expensive, unfortunately :( Flare + BleepingComputer 2026, Kaspersky, StormWall, and others show that the DDoS-as-a-service market is highly commoditized and prices are extremely low: A short test / basic attack on a website: $5–25. Daily attack on a poorly protected target: around $100/day. A more robust or well-protected target: $200–500 per day. Monthly subscription to booter/stresser services: often $15–40 (sometimes even less); premium packages cost hundreds of dollars. Larger or longer-term campaigns or infrastructure: thousands of dollars. On the governmental level these money are almost nothing if you want to hurt someone else… | |
| ▲ | Retr0id a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | DDoS tends to be monetised as DDoS-as-a-service. Taking down "significant" services is good advertising. Either that, or they plan to extort the Norwegian government. | | |
| ▲ | just_some_user a day ago | parent [-] | | But for such a "proof of power" a short attack which takes the service down once is enough, long attacks are not so common and actually require some work from the attacker | | |
| ▲ | Retr0id a day ago | parent | next [-] | | If the attack doesn't last long, bystanders can't know whether it was trivially mitigated by the victim. A shorter attack won't make as many news headlines, either. | |
| ▲ | devin a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Unless part of the social proof is that mitigation is more difficult. |
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| ▲ | giwook a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Probably a country that lost to Norway in the World Cup. | |
| ▲ | roflmaostc a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | is there actually any source those attacks are really done by "script kiddies"? More likely this more politically motivated and backed up by money and more capable groups | | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | i don't think script kiddies are a thing anymore. AI kiddies, more likely. in some ways script kiddies weren't a thing for a decade or more as the attack surface got considerably harder to penetrate, and the model changed for pay-to-play attacks. AI simply caused the bottom of that market to fall further, and effectiveness to increase. | |
| ▲ | just_some_user a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, thats what I meant |
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| ▲ | InTheArena a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What do they benefit from taking down any government, NGO or civic work program? American systems, as well as larger European systems are constantly attacked. I've seen the same traffic. Fire walling off China, North Korea and smaller eastern European countries is a must if you ever plan to expose any internet exposed services. | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > So which actor would actually benefit from downing the Norwegian government? do we really need to ask? clearly it's the Danes | |
| ▲ | cantalopes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Imo russia most likely | | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | almost certainly. they're hitting all NATO governments, and Norway is a direct competitor in the arctic. |
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| ▲ | esseph a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It hasn't been majorly like that in twenty years. Botnets are services now, a business. They gain customers by their effectiveness and resilience. For $$50-100 you can deny service to a lot of big sites and services. | | |
| ▲ | inigyou a day ago | parent [-] | | I've seen people say this but no proof of it. Could I really take down Stack Overflow for $50? Oh wait, it took itself down for free. | | |
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| ▲ | cynicalsecurity a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Really, you have no one in mind? Someone who is sending hundreds of bombing drones daily to Ukraine, killing civilian population, women and children, and who is eager to send a message to NATO countries any way possible? | | |
| ▲ | motbus3 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | That is much less effective than every other manner they tested on the past few years such as shadow fleets, ghost satellites etc. Up to the moment it has not been the operation adopted which would make it weird. On who would do it then, anyone who benefits from instability. From corporations trying to sell flocked uped sytems, politicians, etc. There is one south american country who was attacked exactly this way before their head of the government was kidnapped. | | |
| ▲ | cynicalsecurity a day ago | parent [-] | | You don't understand Kremlin's mentality. Any even little nasty thing they can do to the West makes them giggle like Doctor Evil. "Oh, a NATO country's government infra was not protected from DDoS? Let's have fun, haha!" You are dealing with story book villains. I know, this sounds so ridiculous it's hard to believe someone can actually be like this. But then the reality check hits. | | |
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| ▲ | inigyou 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is Israel supplying drones to Ukraine? Good on them. | |
| ▲ | inigyou a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | iwontberude a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | those script kiddies control botnets in foreign countries and use them to attack stuff just bc. its not their compute, so no marginal cost to them | |
| ▲ | aaron695 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [dead] | |
| ▲ | tuatoru a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | The UK. It wants to steal Norway's vast stores of electricity. | | |
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| ▲ | lschueller a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'd guess someone in the us fat-fingered ip ranges and mixed up 2.144.0.0/14 (Iran) with 2.148.0.0/14 (Norway) |
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| ▲ | TacticalCoder a day ago | parent [-] | | Or someone entered 2.144.0.0/14 but on a machine without ECC and a bit-flip happened, turning it into 2.148.0.0/14. | | |
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| ▲ | speerer a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There's some interesting commentry at https://www.techtimes.com/articles/322754/20260803/norway-id... , which suggests that the widespread outage is due to a single point of failure: > ID-Porten: When One Gateway Controls Everything > At the center of the disruption is ID-porten — the national login gateway operated by Norway's Digitaliseringsdirektoratet (Digdir), the government agency responsible for public-sector digitalization. ID-porten functions as the single sign-on portal through which Norwegian citizens authenticate themselves to access public digital services. It seems to be a corporate service provider that's a dependency for many other services. |
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| ▲ | a day ago | parent | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | e12e a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, it's a single point of failure by design - but has been pretty stable mostly - with this and a previous attack in June being exceptions. The identity portal is administered by the department for digital services, but hosted at a commercial provider, Vivicta (formerly TietoEvery, formerly Tieto and Every - Consulting companies from Finland and Norway). https://www.agilitaspe.com/index.php?id=136 | | |
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| ▲ | p0w3n3d a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There has been also DDoS against my friend's employer ISP. He had to work a lot to mitigate. There was a random request before |
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| ▲ | leke a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The bus card ride purchase system was down today in my part of Finland. I wonder if it is related. |
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| ▲ | spapas82 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Would the attack be successful is the Norwegian government used a way to protect itself against ddos like cloudflare or akamai? |
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| ▲ | inigyou a day ago | parent [-] | | I certainly hope the Norwegian government doesn't force all of its citizens to transmit all of their private data to the US government. |
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| ▲ | kachnuv_ocasek a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Bets on which AI lab it is this time? |
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| ▲ | AtNightWeCode a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Many important services with problems. Ouch. My guess is that the root cause is misconfiguration rather than an attack. |
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| ▲ | e12e a day ago | parent [-] | | From TFA: > Det har siden kl. 01 mandag 3. august pågått et tjenestenektangrep (DDoS) som rammer ID-porten som driftes hos Digdirs driftspartner Vivicta. > Since 0100 hours Monday August 31st there's been an ongoing DDoS attack which affects the ID-Portal which is run/hosted by DepDig's (Department of digital services') service provider Vivicta. (My translation) Ed: just realized Vivicta is TietoEvery with a haircut and new shoes: https://www.agilitaspe.com/index.php?id=136 |
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| ▲ | crest a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| <hat type="tinfoil">I wonder who wants the Norwegian gov infrastructure between a TLS terminating proxy service</hat> |
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| ▲ | roschdal a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The Internet was supposed to withstand a nuclear attack |
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| ▲ | buildbot a day ago | parent | next [-] | | "The internet" is currently fine, besides Norwegian government services. Also something designed to withstand something does not imply it survives other somethings. | |
| ▲ | pprotas a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Guess a nuclear attack would actually lessen the load on the global internet, rather than increase it - like a DDOS would! | |
| ▲ | vee-kay a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | nubg a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | motbus3 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Could be, but it does not look like any of the ways they done before.
Anyone who benefits from instability would be at win, from internal political competition, foreign companies trying to sell flocked up systems and the list could be huge. Not saying it was not who you think it was, Im just saying it does not have enough information yet to be the only explanation or at least the most obvious one. | |
| ▲ | cyanydeez a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | could just be openai. | |
| ▲ | coffinbirth a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | CursedSilicon a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Whispers Hey, hey Did you know Multiple things can in fact, be bad | | |
| ▲ | coffinbirth a day ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | rcxdude a day ago | parent | next [-] | | This is a non-sequitur. | |
| ▲ | CursedSilicon a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Australian but go off :) | |
| ▲ | matkoniecz a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | As someone from Poland I want to confirm that multiple things can be in fact bad. Being invaded by Nazi Germany and days later by their ally, Russia was example of such case. | | |
| ▲ | justsomehnguy a day ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | matkoniecz a day ago | parent [-] | | At no point I claimed that Poland was land of saints and cuddly plush bears. See also Bereza Kartuska. What you linked does not change at all that being invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany and Soviet Union was absolutely awful and both were clearly evil. (and if you want to start oppression olympics, then yes: what Germany and Russia did was far worse than what Poland did, for that matter what Ukrainian OUN UPA did was far worse than what Poland did) | | |
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| ▲ | indemnity a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe you should stop invading other countries if these comparisons hurt your feelings buddy. | | |
| ▲ | coffinbirth a day ago | parent [-] | | I always find it unbelievable how people do not know or just forget about what happened in the east 85 years ago. Really sad. This is one of the primary reasons why people in the west don't understand why Russia cannot accept Ukraine in NATO. It was NATO that expanded to the east, contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union. Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable. | | |
| ▲ | anon48293 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Ukraine sought NATO membership AFTER Russia attacked in 2014, not before. Since you’re such a history buff, what did Russia promise when Ukraine got rid of their nukes? | | |
| ▲ | coffinbirth a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > Ukraine got rid of their nukes Russia is the official successor state of the Soviet Union, the nukes never belonged to Ukraine in the first place. It was Ukraine that first attacked LPR and DPR in 2014. It was Ukraine that forbid Russian language, culture, church, etc... to Russians living in eastern Ukraine. By the way, Odessa will return to Russia. | | |
| ▲ | anon48293 a day ago | parent [-] | | Answer the question. What did Russia state in the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances? | | |
| ▲ | nubg a day ago | parent [-] | | He won't lmao it's an instant check mate for putin bots |
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| ▲ | justsomehnguy a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > NATO Action Plan membership (Georgia and Ukraine) 4 April 2008 Sure, sure a fresh "anon" account. |
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| ▲ | SukadarBukadar a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Let me tell you what's actually "really sad": Bucha as a response to sovereign country's attempt to join NATO. Having a hostile country as a neighbour isn't an excuse for starting a war with it. | | |
| ▲ | coffinbirth a day ago | parent [-] | | Following this logic Mexico and Canada can both join a military alliance with China and Russia, I guess the U.S. must accept that, both are sovereign country's after all... | | |
| ▲ | matkoniecz a day ago | parent | next [-] | | And if in response USA would invade and start massacring civilians (like Russia did), that would be in fact evil. | |
| ▲ | nubg a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | correct! |
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| ▲ | antonvs a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable. Russia, as a hostile nation not interested in participating in global peace, doesn’t get to decide such things. | |
| ▲ | matkoniecz a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > what happened in the east 85 years ago Russia got attacked by their ally, Nazi Germany. After 87 years ago in 1939 they invaded together Poland. > Really sad. Yeah, Russia going on to win WW II was quite sad. Admittedly better than Nazis winning but pity they have not both lost. > contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union which supposed agreements? Were they any more binding than Budapest Memorandum? > Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable. And Russia in Ukraine is unacceptable for us. |
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