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slg 2 hours ago

I really can't get over the way almost every piece of consumer technology/software has gotten worse in the last half decade. These companies are killing every goose they can get their hands on because they are so convinced there is some golden goose out there that will be worth more than all those regular geese combined.

Bolwin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It feels like that should be a golden opportunity for competitors, but every time a competitor makes a decent replacement, the big tech company either buys it or briefly invests in their product again to make it good enough and since they have a long tail of users and the network effect, they win by default while still keeping their product mediocre

palata an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The joys of monopolies, I guess. I think that the only solution is to break them, and that goes through regulations.

tshaddox 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Competitors have the option of not selling to big tech (and not taking money from VCs who will then pressure you to sell to big tech).

shevy-java an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I thought so too, but they suck as well. It's really strange.

I wonder if we can re-design the www stack. Keep what is working, discard the rest, but design it correctly up-front, so that e. g. Google or others can not ruin it anymore. The 1990s were better in this regard IMO.

conradfr 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nothing is worst because of the www stack, which is better than it has ever been.

The world consume things through mobile apps nowadays.

skywhopper 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

And they all, universally, are terrible, slow, buggy, confusing, constantly changing, and have terrible UX. It’s no wonder people think it would be a good idea to use an AI to disintermediate their interactions with their computers: it’s because 99% of software is absolute trash.

toomuchtodo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The solution is non profits or open protocols. Internet Archive. Let’s Encrypt. Signal. AT Proto. (not an exhaustive list) Competition is not the way out, but building public goods through corporate entity structures that are protected from the usual capitalist forms of acquisition (B Corps are not required to maximize value, non profits can be made almost impossible to acquire).

In other words, don’t build another car company, build a mass transit system, build the library, build the park.

A great recent example was Mitchell pushing Ghostty into a non profit before using it as a component for a venture startup (Superlogical).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49100329

> We will build on libghostty exactly as it was designed to be used: as a public building block for terminal applications. Superlogical will consume the same MIT-licensed components available to everyone else, and we will continue to upstream shared terminal work so every libghostty consumer can benefit.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48738228

(Our collective defense against people building moats to capture economic gains through the control of data or capabilities is to make it impossible to build the moat, and it’s never been cheaper to do so with LLMs, “computah make it so”)

swed420 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> The solution is non profits or open protocols.

This is a decent brain storming along those lines for social media in particular, but it could also apply more broadly, like you say:

https://www.noemamag.com/the-last-days-of-social-media/

righthand an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Non-profits and open protocols dont do jack squat when capitalists surround those things. See: Mozilla Firefox and WHATWG

The latter particularly being membered by all the big corpos and introducing, controlling, and deprecating standards as they see fit and regardless of pushback from the public.

toomuchtodo 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Governance is hard, the final OSI layer is always people, and the struggle is never ending. The primitives exist for those with hope and will to build.

Kinda hard to be cynical to the point of paralysis on a startup forum based around startups when 90% of startups fail, no? If the default is dead, strive to survive. I’m tired too, know when to rest, not to quit. The toolbox and pattern is straightforward for build mode. Don’t get mad, get sovereign.

righthand 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

Oh I’m supposed to get sovereign by building my own web browser and running my own standards committee or what? How does my sovereignty attract like minded people when half dont care and half dont understand?

Please clarify your message if it’s not from an LLM, I’m not sure what you’re suggesting or stating even.

toomuchtodo 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not a robot, but I feel my thoughts fall on deaf ears in your case. Godspeed.

RicoElectrico an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

One of the only actual levers in society is interest rates and let me tell you, the current state does not favor those who just want to have a sustainable business.

dgellow 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

have you seen Masayoshi Son goose presentation?

https://group.softbank/media/Project/sbg/sbg/pdf/ir/investor...

page 44

I think you're onto something

edit: replaced the link to point to the actual slides, it's worth checking the actual source, there is some hilarious details there! (spoiler: "The true source of value. Golden egg factory inside the goose")

applfanboysbgon 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is the most amazing presentation I've ever seen in my life.

slg an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hadn't seen that. Just a hunch, but it's probably a red flag when someone starts comparing themselves to non-existent mythical beings.

shevy-java an hour ago | parent [-]

Are you saying that TempleOS sucks?

valleyer an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The exception that proves the rule.

singingtoday an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I still never gave it a try. I assume it works in a VM? Maybe it's time to try Holy C.

mlmonkey 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unfortunately, today's MBAs can barely see beyond the current quarter. Everything is a P&L to them, everything is a cell in a spreadsheet. This MBA culture is slowly strangling American companies and squeezing the life out of them.

KaiMagnus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What a fever dream of a presentation, but I bet it was effective.

layer8 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s so hilarious and sad at the same time.

financetechbro an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I’ve put together many investor presentations throughout my time and seeing the stuff that SoftBank gets away with is honestly insane. My bonus would’ve been at jeopardy if I would’ve presented slides like that to my senior bankers.

throwaway13337 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Data driven decisions happened.

Metrics can only capture short term value.

They also let us make unethical decisions with the data taking the blame.

It is fundamentally dehumanizing. We are no longer treating others the way that we would like to be treated when we make software.

3uler an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Half decade? Its been getting worse for as long as I’ve been conscious.

rexreed an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The tipping point from steady improvement to steady enshittification is just post the 2008 recession. As soon as the financial incentives were put in for growth (2009+) the trend shifted hard to value extraction from a captive audience.

dd8601fn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Eh. I understand the vibe, but so many millions of things have gotten so, so much better in my lifetime.

We could spend all day trying to list them, if we tried.

tpm an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

how old are you? smartphones are strictly better than no smartphones or no mobile phones. internet is better than no internet. etc.

chongli 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

YouTube is better than no YouTube. Wikipedia is better than no Wikipedia. But Google today is way worse than first decade Google.

There's curves to all these things. It just feels like we're accelerating on the downslope of a lot of them right now.

giancarlostoro an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Arguably a little longer, its just compounded, Windows peaked at 8 and 10 was downhill spiral, 11 is just all the bad stuff that 10 had available out of the box.

culopatin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I’ve never heard someone claim windows peaked at 8, at least 7.

SoftTalker an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Peak was Windows 2000 Professional.

layer8 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It’s undeniable: https://i1.kwejk.pl/k/obrazki/2017/04/4785e864a82730b16d00fe...

singingtoday an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

98se, 2000, 7, 10

XP wasn't bad, it was basically 2000 with extra stuff.

marking-time an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, this is my opinion as well. I did my MCSE certification on win2k and their stuff was good back then, even on that old hardware. You had to beg it to BSOD.

rubyn00bie 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can confirm. It was the first OS I ever pirated (technically it was the Data Center edition, I bought off of some dude on a forum via a money order I sent him[1], because my internet was so slow 28.8k). I was trying to get a system that wouldn’t BSOD and had heard how reliable NT 4 was before it so I downloaded it… and the kid with the coolest[2] Dragon Ball Z website was using ASP to serve it.

I ran the DC edition and eventually just Pro for years. It wasn’t until well past SP4 I stopped using it and switched to XP, which I only did because it was running the NT kernel.

If it wasn’t for Win2k and ISS I probably wouldn’t have ever become a software engineer. Truly appreciate Microsoft’s anti-piracy efforts being completely ineffective at the time.

[1] I was worried about sending some random guy my $20 as a 14 year old. But I really should’ve been worried about my mom checking the mail and then asking me WTF I got in the mail. She was pissed but still let me use it.

[2] I forget the name but I just remember I liked it better than PlanetNamek. It was also really cool to me that some kid had a Dad who could do that sort of thing. I had a lot of trouble even hosting a site somewhere besides Geocities because my parents wouldn’t use their credit card online (which is how I discovered the usefulness of money orders).

girvo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Such a great operating system. I miss it.

technocratius an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a hard truth

rvba an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Windows 8 was never peak. It was the one that introduced the tablet view that nobody wanted.

free652 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Hard agree, 8 was peak trash.

jhickok an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

8.1 was a liiiiitle better but that's not saying much.

wonnage 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Software stopped improving in 2016 and now AI is here to accelerate the downfall

rpdillon an hour ago | parent [-]

It's weirdly kinda true...at least in games, my kids and I noticed that there were a bonkers number of great games in 2016 in particular, but also kind of around that period (2018 had some greats as well). Sure, there are some standouts in recent years here and there, but it seems like the overall trend is downward.

Was kind of excited to see Crate Entertainment release a new DLC for Grim Dawn this past week, given that's a game from 2016. Love the approach of adding more content to something known to be good.

teamonkey an hour ago | parent [-]

The current trend is saturation. The current rate is over 4000 new games a month on Steam. The problem isn’t that great new games aren’t being released, it’s finding them.

onetokeoverthe an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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