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How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)(openrss.org)
94 points by pudgywalsh 3 hours ago | 20 comments
GrayHerring 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I think the core issue is that it is hard to sell why you need an RSS, especially for the average user. It would not be uncommon to meet an IT professional who has at best heard the term, but never really tried to delve further. Sadly by the time the average internet dweller hears of RSS, their mind is already so ingrained in the "usual" browsing experience that anything that is out of the ordinary feels instinctively wrong, even if it clearly has multiple merits.

bakemawaytoys 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google’s obviously fake excuse for killing their RSS reader (declining usage) was especially maddening at the time because they were pushing Google+ - which _nobody_ used.

alightsoul 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

As a result many people in developing countries were driven towards social media like instagram and TikTok where they get their news. And now they're addicted to them.

firefax 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It was a great example of being evil -- they reduced user choice while pushing an inferior product.

InsideOutSanta 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

And then killed it too. They killed a tool people loved to promote a tool people didn't want to adopt, and in the end both ended up dead.

betenoire an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google Reader going away felt like the beginning of the end the internet as I knew it. I miss websites

danesparza 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm still bitter about Google Reader going away. I endorse this sentiment.

gertlex 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Me too, but there were some replacements that made me happy because they fixed some irk with google's version. (I think I used Commafeed?)

I eventually got away from subscribing to like 50 webcomics (all I used RSS for... most other stuff was too high-volume, and I liked reading everything in my feed, iirc) though and stopped using an RSS feed altogether.

adamm255 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

"I miss websites". Damn that hit. I realise the only place pushing me to an actual website these days are my RSS feeds (self hosted FreshRSS), and HN. Maybe very occasional share on LinkedIn.

mattsimpson 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You never know what will be someone's straw-that-broke-the-camels-back moment, but this was it for me. Nothing in this post was new news, but despite that, seeing it written down in one place made me realize just the type of person, I mean company, that you are and what you really want, Google. For too long I've been holding on to the "do no evil" person, I mean company, that you once were. But now it's clear to me... you're a toxic friend. We've been drifting apart for years, but now it's official... we're breaking up. I'm sure there's a person, I mean company, out there for me. One that will treat me right, be good to me, and respect me as a person and I'm going to find it.

AlexAplin 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Feeds still have a lot of inertia, at least. Most blogs generate them out of the box, and Wordpress being as predominant as it still is means you can still find them even where you don't expect to. Even social media profiles can compress into feeds with a little help from solutions like Nitter (or in Bluesky's case, offered natively). What I think is really missed is the social component that Reader had, which you still can't really find even with the variety of great readers that came in its wake.

I know I will probably just migrate them to RSSHub when the time calls, but YouTube's channel and playlist feeds have been such a great way to follow a large number of creators. I'm still holding my breath for the day they unceremoniously stop working.

renegat0x0 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i still use feeds often

https://github.com/rumca-js/awesome-database-feeds

often using my crawling server because rss are often protected against bots

https://github.com/rumca-js/crawler-buddy

monksy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What did Google benefit from killing rss? Seems like that would help engagement on the web in general.

tommek4077 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You couldnt put ads that easily in rss feeds.

goldenarm 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They killed greader and RSS to push Google+, which was a brilliant decision.

InsideOutSanta 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a decentralized solution in a world where google wants everything to go through google.

danesparza 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Ad revenue.

shevy-java 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is the Company of Pure Evil.

Whatever it touches, it destroys - excluding adMoney. That's its only soul.

What I have also noticed is that people are no longer happy to say "I worked at Google". It's now more a career killer (to some extent) than an accelerator.

Anyone remember Google+? Nobody used it but Google tried to force-abuse people into using it.

LightBug1 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, fuck Google for all of this.

That's my intellectually considered response.

Fuck Google.

rpdillon 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

Upvoted not for your particular phrasing, but because in a sense, this was my experience as well: I wanted to work at Google, and I thought Google was learning how to marry a great business with treating customers well. Killing GReader was the inflection point for me, when Google tipped from "Great!" to "Kinda evil". It's been a slide every since.