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s20n 7 hours ago

I assumed the word was derived from "azul" but from the article, it's apparently derived from the Arabic الزليج (al-zillīj) and has no relation with "azul"

txbrown 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Portuguese here - many Portuguese words have origin from Arabic as Portugal has been conquered and occupied by "the Moors" in 8th~13th century. That's a long time! Alentejo, Aljezur, Algarve, and many of the cities in the Southern part of the country have have Arabic origins.

portugueasey 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So much so that the controversy over the use of “insha’Allah” by non-Muslims was missed by me, Portuguese has “oxalá”, and I could not understand the problem. It’s funny how many words we use in Portuguese and Spanish that have their origin in the Moorish time.

heyjamesknight 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Arab Orthodox Christians have been saying "inshallah" longer than Muslims have been around.

rescbr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm Brazilian and I had never connected "insha'Allah" to "oxalá". Wow, TIL.

At least we were taught in school that if a word starts with "al" then there is a big chance it has roots in Arabic.

forinti 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Some words also came into Portuguese from African slaves who were Muslim.

And also from the Lebanese who immigrated to Brazil in the XX century.

a34729t 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

And the surname "matamoros"!

opminion 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Matamoros

senadir 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The arabic word for "azul" is أزرق (azraq) so they all look pretty adjacent.

Laurel1234 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Azul 100% comes from Arabic (well Persian, but through Arabic), although I think the specific Andalusian form that was borrowed was a bit different from that.

lookeey 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

interestingly, apparently "azul" also comes from the arabic "lāzuward"

vasco 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I always thought it came from lapis lazuli (portuguese). Azul as a subpar of Lazuli even sounds exactly the same in portuguese.

wvbdmp 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Lapis Lazuli is cognate, both come from the same Arabic/Persian root. Apparently “azure”, “azul”, “azzurro” lost the L because it got confused with the common “l’” article,

decimalenough 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Rebracketing strikes again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebracketing

nudpiedo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And the word from arabic comes, for both of them comes from persian for hte term lapis lazuli (lāžward) and suposedly this comes from sanskrit... but I ignore how it may sound in sanskrit.

dgellow 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In french we have “azur”

Laurel1234 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This wikipedia article, the wiktionary entry for Portuguese, and the Spanish wiktionary entry all have different etymologies lmao.

As a Spanish speaker it seems really hard to believe it's not azul + -ejo. They're literally blue.

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