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shreddit 2 days ago

Couldn’t GrapheneOS provide a special pin which boots into an “empty”session? Where the user can install some default stuff to not look suspicious?

gruez 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

They said they don't bother because it's non-trivial to implement convincingly, so they don't bother, lest it gives people a false sense of security. For instance, if you do this, and the adb logs aren't scrubbed, then that's massively suspicious and that'd still you in legal hot waters.

petilon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Right, they should restore the phone to a user-picked previous state, as opposed to wiping it clean.

grapheneos a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would be easily detected by widely used forensic software from Cellebrite and other companies. It would also definitely look suspicious. We explained in much more depth in response to a related proposal:

https://nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/2082153517234676150#m

Uncolored3673 a day ago | parent [-]

Can you pay someone or have a volunteer manage the social media? Seems like not a good use of an insanely skilled developer's time to reply to people on twitter so much. Obviously you should write the explanatory posts.

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deepsun 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People are doing that in Belarus (since 2020 the repression still continue). You also need to create a convincing profile and story for all the usual apps. Alibi if you wish.

Cider9986 a day ago | parent [-]

Not forensically safe. I guess the authorities are aware but don't take the steps all the time except important cases. Really puts the citizens on their toes.

john_strinlai 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

im not sure if grapheneos does or not, but it's not a novel idea, and often will only be a delay tactic.

forensics will reveal the other partition(s), and then you're in the exact same position having to answer "what's the other partition, provide the password"