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throwaway27448 5 hours ago

I wonder how they'll figure out who to target for litigation when this license is violated.

paxys 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How many companies host and serve models via API and have a $20M+ revenue? Going to be pretty straightforward to catch offenders.

ayewo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yep. Cursor’s Composer 2 model is a good example, though it is not clear if they entered into an agreement with Moonshot before they got found out in March this year [1] or after.

1: https://x.com/fynnso/status/2034706304875602030

throwaway27448 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Demonstrating a company is using this model in court seems non-trivial, no? Or am I interpreting this post incorrectly.

amazingamazing an hour ago | parent [-]

Not at all. It is easy to bake in a specific response to a given prompt in the model.

bityard 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Software licenses aren't enforced through litigation as much as they are enforced through the _threat_ of litigation and legal risk. In other words, pretty much every company pays lawyers to minimize legal risk. Those lawyers inevitably look at all the contracts, agreements, and software licenses, and tell the C-suite what to do in order to keep their legal exposure as low as possible. "Don't violate other companies' IP," is pretty low-hanging fruit in those conversations.

It is a very rare (and ballsy, and perhaps incompetent) company that ignores their lawyers' recommendations to adhere to the letter of all of the software licenses they are bound to.

ffsm8 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They haven't litigated the last public non-compliance... Despite that one being extremely public. So probably not at all for now.

JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> They haven't litigated the last public non-compliance

What was it?

drawnwren 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Cursor was thought to be but they were later found to be using an authorized provider [1]

1 - https://x.com/Kimi_Moonshot/status/2035074972943831491?lang=...

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Iolaum 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe because a non public agreement was in place?

mike_hearn 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They have certainly trained in some secret call/response pairs that would uniquely identify Kimi serving.