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| ▲ | hectdev an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Genuine question, is the reasoning chain different from clicking the status bar under a reply and watching it "think"? Or selecting the "Thinking" transcript view in Claude Code? (both on the desktop app). Seems to me that is very out in the open |
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| ▲ | pmxi an hour ago | parent [-] | | That's a summarized and filtered view of the actual reasoning. OpenAI and Anthropic guard the real reasoning closely. Users have never been able to see it and the API returns an encrypted blob instead of legible reasoning. | | |
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| ▲ | causal 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Right I was going to say, no way of knowing whether these issues are unique to Chinese models. |
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| ▲ | XCSme 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Depends on whether the models report the correct amount of tokens. 5.5 Sol repors 10x fewer reasoning tokens than Kimi k3. If it is correct, than it unlikely has those doubt issues. At the same time, I feel like their reporting is incorect and we are now paying per "intelligence", not actual tokens. We can't verify it anyway.. |
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