On the flip side, I really like being able to inspect its reasoning chain thoroughly, as opposed to the "black box" that Anthropic models are now.

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hectdev 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Genuine question, is the reasoning chain different from clicking the status bar under a reply and watching it "think"? Or selecting the "Thinking" transcript view in Claude Code? (both on the desktop app). Seems to me that is very out in the open

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causal an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Right I was going to say, no way of knowing whether these issues are unique to Chinese models.

	▲	XCSme an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Depends on whether the models report the correct amount of tokens. 5.5 Sol repors 10x fewer reasoning tokens than Kimi k3. If it is correct, than it unlikely has those doubt issues. At the same time, I feel like their reporting is incorect and we are now paying per "intelligence", not actual tokens. We can't verify it anyway..