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mattlondon 3 hours ago

I think in these situations your absolute best bet is fawning compliance. Ask precisely how high they want you to jump.

Perhaps your friendly smiling Yes-Sir-No-Sir-3-bags-Full-Sir act might just be enough to let you get on your way without anything else happening apart from a stamp in your passport.

Even the slightest hint of defiance or surliness from you to a border guard/policeman/etc - potentially at the end of a long shift, tired, angry, pissed-off or whatever - and you're straight away hugely more likely to have a bad day.

Finding strategies to "beat the system" will, I think, just be a shortcut to some other punishment/crime/taken-out-of-sight-and-given-a-proper-kicking-oh-they-resisted-and-went-for-my-gun/etc as this person found out the hard way by trying to be difficult.

I genuinely don't think there is a "get out of jail free card" or magic incantation you can say to get out of these situations apart from just smiling and being polite and not being a dick - if you get into a "who can be more annoying" competition, then the border guards/police will always win since they hold all the cards and will happily ruin your day/holiday/meetings etc by detaining you (its their job to do this after all)

There have been cases very recently in the US where the authority figures down dealing with the public are evidently in a very defensive, aggressive "us-vs-them" mindset, with an itchy trigger-finger to go with it. Don't be the person on the receiving end of a cop seeing-red because you're being a jerk.

The house always wins.

EvanAnderson 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I genuinely don't think there is a "get out of jail free card" ...

Being rich and politically connected would probably do it.

wat10000 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's best to do that for things they have the right to do. Trying to resist being questioned or having your stuff searched is a fool's errand. They'll make it happen one way or another.

But I'd never unlock my phone for US immigration. That's my whole life on there, and they don't have the right to compel me to unlock it. Even there, be polite. You can say "no" politely.

Where this guy went wrong was actively wiping his phone. That's no good. What you do is put your phone in its most secure state (generally powering it off) before you reach the immigration desk, and then if they seize it, you have to trust its security to keep them from getting into it.

piltdownman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever"

voakbasda 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I will ask this here again:

At what point did the German people find it morally acceptable to start killing Nazis?

At what point will the US stop accepting the boot and act to remove the tyranny stamping on our collective face?

profunctor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Did they ever?

Xirdus an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> At what point did the German people find it morally acceptable to start killing Nazis?

Late 1960s at the very earliest, and it's only been a tiny minority.